Why did Dariusz Michalczewski vs Roy Jones Jr not happen?

[richardt]

This is a very biased version based on what Jones and his people has said.

Now you also give an opinion which I have bolded.

Yes HBO offered DM a slot on a Jones undercard to less Money than a defense in Germany would have given. Furthermore there was no guarantee that Jones subsequently would fight DM. Great idea huh?

Don't be ignorant. Most of the time HBO doubleheaders are made is to match up the two headliners against each other and that is what they have done many times and that was the plan but DM as you said would rather make more in Germany than to have the chance to be called a top PPV fighter. Jones transcended just beltholders, he was the number one fighter in the world, pound for pound. DM stayed in Germany BECAUSE of money, and that is why he backed out of the Telesco fight to begin with. Period.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Don't put words in my mouth! I never said DM was an unknown! He called out Roy on HBO and that is when the pressure mounted for a fight between the two. And you asked where HBO was going to get 10 mill. They paid 5 mill a fight for Roy to fight contenders and was willing to pay DM handsomely and tried to make the fight because of all the backlash against both fighters just like the may-pac situation. HBO did everything they could to make the fight. Everyone who followed the situation knows that Peter Kohl received phone calls from HBO and Square Ring Inc and did not return the calls. Look, it is obvious you never followed the events of the day or you would know that HBO made the offer, this is a known fact. I followed every single article that was released about the potential fight. Dibella was with HBO when negotiations took place. Give him a call if you want to know the full story.

Yeah because Roy took like 85% of the purse. DM had never fought in the US so he was hardly that well known to the casual fan. @comparing it to Pacquiaio-Mayweather. I just don't see where the money came from to offer him $5m. Seems like a very exaggerated fee.

You followed every single article but the only one you can post is a claim made by Roy Jones and his manager. Then a very viased opinionated pro-Roy, anti-DM diatribe at the end.

Where are these other articles?

[richardt]

Yeah because Roy took like 85% of the purse. DM had never fought in the US so he was hardly that well known to the casual fan. @comparing it to Pacquiaio-Mayweather. I just don't see where the money came from to offer him $5m. Seems like a very exaggerated fee.

You followed every single article but the only one you can post is a claim made by Roy Jones and his manager. Then a very viased opinionated pro-Roy, anti-DM diatribe at the end.

Where are these other articles?

I followed every single article at the time including responses from HBO, Jones, DM, Murad, Universum, and Peter Kohl. And I stated facts that came out when the situation took place. The fact is DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN and backed out, the fact is HBO's Kerry Davis waited for Universum to come to the negotiating table after HBO made offers and Peter Kohl declined, the fact is Murad even went to Germany to try to make the fight with Peter Kohl because of all the backlash. These are facts. You totally fantasized the 85% to Jones split.

[robertzimmerman]

DM was the real lineal champion though. Roy was a beltcollector.


So its not like the challenger has to come to the champion?

I'm asking you to look from Roy's perspective.

Dariusz lost his belts, other fighters fought for them, and then Roy beat them. Again, what happened with Dariusz had nothing to do with Roy. Roy had all three belts, and crushed the guy who Dariusz had originally beat in Hill.

You couldn't expect the best fighter in the world, with all the main belts, to have gone to Germany.

Why would Roy have put his three belts up, against Dariusz's lightly regarded WBO belt?

Again, whether it was right or wrong, or fair or unfair, Roy was the champ during negotiations. You can say that Dariusz had never lost his belts in the ring, but Roy had them all. So Roy didn't have to go to the champ, because he was the champ.

The only way the onus would have been on Roy, is if Dariusz had still been the champ with his belts around his waist. Nobody gave Roy those belts. He won them fairly in fights.

[MrRolltide91]

How good was Roy in his prime?

the perfect fighter

[King_]

Mikalzewzki ducked him. Big time.

[BattlingNelson]

Don't put words in my mouth! I never said DM was an unknown! He called out Roy on HBO and that is when the pressure mounted for a fight between the two. And you asked where HBO was going to get 10 mill. They paid 5 mill a fight for Roy to fight contenders and was willing to pay DM handsomely and tried to make the fight because of all the backlash against both fighters just like the may-pac situation. HBO did everything they could to make the fight. Everyone who followed the situation knows that Peter Kohl received phone calls from HBO and Square Ring Inc and did not return the calls. Look, it is obvious you never followed the events of the day or you would know that HBO made the offer, this is a known fact. I followed every single article that was released about the potential fight. Dibella was with HBO when negotiations took place. Give him a call if you want to know the full story.

Ok. How much did Kohl offer for Jones to fight DM and what purse did Jones demand?

[BattlingNelson]

I'm asking you to look from Roy's perspective.

Dariusz lost his belts, other fighters fought for them, and then Roy beat them. Again, what happened with Dariusz had nothing to do with Roy. Roy had all three belts, and crushed the guy who Dariusz had originally beat in Hill.

You couldn't expect the best fighter in the world, with all the main belts, to have gone to Germany.

Why would Roy have put his three belts up, against Dariusz's lightly regarded WBO belt?

Again, whether it was right or wrong, or fair or unfair, Roy was the champ during negotiations. You can say that Dariusz had never lost his belts in the ring, but Roy had them all. So Roy didn't have to go to the champ, because he was the champ.

The only way the onus would have been on Roy, is if Dariusz had still been the champ with his belts around his waist. Nobody gave Roy those belts. He won them fairly in fights.

As I said, DM was champ. Jones had a bunch of trinkets.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I followed every single article at the time including responses from HBO, Jones, DM, Murad, Universum, and Peter Kohl. And I stated facts that came out when the situation took place. The fact is DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN and backed out, the fact is HBO's Kerry Davis waited for Universum to come to the negotiating table after HBO made offers and Peter Kohl declined, the fact is Murad even went to Germany to try to make the fight with Peter Kohl because of all the backlash. These are facts. You totally fantasized the 85% to Jones split.

Where are they? Yet you only produce one which is clearly pro-Roy and you are clearly Pro-Roy so yeah, ok.

[mrdogtown1975]

Roy Jones Jr would've busted him up anyway.