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Why did Dariusz Michalczewski vs Roy Jones Jr not happen?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
    Jones not willing to travel against a champion who could draw more than him. Simple as that.

    What makes it even worse is that Jones faced Hill after Hill had lost all his belts and the american boxing media made it sound like THE match up for the legitimate LHW crown.
    Dariusz lost his belts through politics, but that wasn't Roy's problem. At the time of negotiations, Roy had all three of the main belts, and Dariusz only held the lightly regarded WBO belt. Roy was also classed as the best fighter in the world, and he'd got a better resume. Not only that, Dariusz had cheated to get Rochigianni disqualified a few years earlier. Roy said in 2001 that he didn't think a knockout would be enough over there. So in my opinion, the onus was never on Roy to go to Germany.

    In the end, neither guy would travel. But I do think that Roy would have fought him in the U.S. But Dariusz seemed more than content to keep fighting whoever Khol put in front of him.

    Regarding Hill, yes, Roy did fight him after Dariusz. But he had spoke of wanting to fight Hill, before he'd fought Griffin. After he decided against fighting Buster Douglas, the Hill fight was available for a good payday.

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    • #42
      How good was Roy in his prime?

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      • #43
        Both their faults. When you look back at it...you think...why? Would have been an EASY EASY EASY win for Roy and would have added to his legacy since DM was undefeated at the time. Egos man smh,

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        • #44
          Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
          How good was Roy in his prime?
          Better than any fighter who ever existed. Seriously, if you wanted to craft a fighter Roy was it.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            It would be very difficult to Pick against Jones regardless of venue. Of course it is absolutely possible that DM would give him a Glen Johnson treatment, but Jones was on the downslide at that time. Still I can understand those who'd pick DM.

            As to the other part of your poll I think it's impossible to place the blame squarely on one part. Both had a great gig going on either side of the Atlantic and it would be expensive to get either one to travel. Anyway it's a damn shame that the fight did not happen.
            You have to be kidding? Have you actually watched Michalczewski fight? He literally DOES NOTHING that would trouble Roy Jones Jr.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
              Dariusz lost his belts through politics, but that wasn't Roy's problem. At the time of negotiations, Roy had all three of the main belts, and Dariusz only held the lightly regarded WBO belt.
              DM was the real lineal champion though. Roy was a beltcollector.

              Roy was also classed as the best fighter in the world, and he'd got a better resume. Not only that, Dariusz had cheated to get Rochigianni disqualified a few years earlier. Roy said in 2001 that he didn't think a knockout would be enough over there. So in my opinion, the onus was never on Roy to go to Germany.

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              So its not like the challenger has to come to the champion?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
                You have to be kidding? Have you actually watched Michalczewski fight? He literally DOES NOTHING that would trouble Roy Jones Jr.
                I guess before the Glen Johnson fight, nobody thought that Roy would be touched either. DM applied a lot of pressure and punched real hard. Who's to say there's no chance that Tiger would land anything devastating?

                As you may or may not have noted, I did pick Roy to win, but of course a case can be made for DM winning. Especially with the benefit of hindsight.

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                • #48
                  Dariusz Michalczewski would not leave Germany and Roy Jones Jr was one the top p4p fighters in the world. Why should Jones have to go to Germany to chase him. Jones would have destroyed him like Tiozzo did.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
                    Telling people they can't read. Apparently neither can you. This thread has been done plenty of times before you made it. Look it up the answers always the same Dariusz didn't wanna come over Roy didn't wanna go there. Roy always beats everyone in his prime except Michael spinks and a few others at a at lhw and middle weight seeing as how he was to green. Most think he woulda beat everyone at 168 cause he was in his absolute prime. Oh yeah Roy woulda won if you really gotta ask you musta forgot man.

                    I'm not making this up just go through some threads it's all there.
                    I didn't search for one so I didn't have the opportunity to read any other version of this thread so how have you come up with the assumption that I can't read? If you don't like my thread, no one is forcing you to post in it

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      It's based on what Roy Jones and his manager said.

                      $5M offer? lol....where were they getting that money from to pay Dariusz? And Roy would be getting how much? Obviously more. So HBO were going to spunk over $10m on a fight between Roy and a guy that you say the American public didn't know? Roy was never a huge PPV draw.

                      And where is the link to this article which sounds very opinionated and pro Roy.

                      I don't really know what happened tbh. I believe they were both comfortable making money at home and neither desperately tried to make the fight.
                      Don't put words in my mouth! I never said DM was an unknown! He called out Roy on HBO and that is when the pressure mounted for a fight between the two. And you asked where HBO was going to get 10 mill. They paid 5 mill a fight for Roy to fight contenders and was willing to pay DM handsomely and tried to make the fight because of all the backlash against both fighters just like the may-pac situation. HBO did everything they could to make the fight. Everyone who followed the situation knows that Peter Kohl received phone calls from HBO and Square Ring Inc and did not return the calls. Look, it is obvious you never followed the events of the day or you would know that HBO made the offer, this is a known fact. I followed every single article that was released about the potential fight. Dibella was with HBO when negotiations took place. Give him a call if you want to know the full story.
                      Last edited by richardt; 06-29-2015, 09:55 PM.

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