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  • Szef
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    #91
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    Khans easy win over Alexander is superior to Thurmans win over anyone.

    so, we don't just base rankings off what happened today. Bradley has been the 3rd best welter for some 2-3 years now. For thurman to knock him off that pedastal, he actually has to win a real title, Even Porter has done more.

    stop posting smilies, it doesnt make ur argument any better. gtfo.
    So, we don't base rankings off what happened today yet you have Khan over Thurman. How many fights have Khan had at 147?

    Bradley in the last 2 years beat JMM (a legit win), then he lost to Pac (again), had a draw with Chavez and beat Jessie f*uckin Vargas. In every one of those fights he struggled. JMM and Pac are understandable but Chavez and Vargas? He should be disposing guys like them easily right?

    Btw, thanks for the red K, Princess

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    • gmc_rfc_06
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      #92
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      Bradley hast he better wins...KOing Karass means nothing at the time they fought (thurman that is).
      Bradley does have the better resume, but I think he's clearly declined, too small and I think Thurman beats him.

      Since Provodnikov (a fight I thought Bradley lost) he has looked faded and vulnerable. Pacquiao beat him easily, Vargas, who has Malignaggi power, put him on ***** street with a single punch, a close fight with Chavez....Yeah, I rate Thurman higher at this stage.

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      • soul_survivor
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        #93
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
        Bradley does have the better resume, but I think he's clearly declined, too small and I think Thurman beats him.

        Since Provodnikov (a fight I thought Bradley lost) he has looked faded and vulnerable. Pacquiao beat him easily, Vargas, who has Malignaggi power, put him on ***** street with a single punch, a close fight with Chavez....Yeah, I rate Thurman higher at this stage.
        Vargas landed a good shot, that's that. Bradley won almost every round preceding that.

        You're rating Thurman on what may be, I'm rating Bradley on what has been and what is.

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          #94
          Mayweather
          Pac
          Bradley
          Jmm
          Khan
          Thurman
          Brook
          Maidana
          Porter
          Ali

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          • soul_survivor
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            #95
            Originally posted by -MEGA-
            Mayweather
            Pac
            Bradley
            Jmm
            Khan
            Thurman
            Brook
            Maidana
            Porter
            Ali
            better list than most but surely Brook has to be higher than JMM now and Khan and Thurman? Why'd you rank him lower?

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              #96
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              better list than most but surely Brook has to be higher than JMM now and Khan and Thurman? Why'd you rank him lower?
              I'm kinda ranking them off of accomplishments/competition. JMM win over Pac has been the best WW win in years IMO. Plus if you notice the top 4 have pretty much all fought each other. Khan has the better resume out of Thurman/Brook imo also. Brook best win to date is Porter, which is solid. But don't get him in my top 5. However, I'm pretty sure he will be there in the next couple of years. Thurman has a good win over Chaves and Guerrero which puts him just above Brook. Again, just my opinion.

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              • soul_survivor
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                #97
                Originally posted by -MEGA-
                I'm kinda ranking them off of accomplishments/competition. JMM win over Pac has been the best WW win in years IMO. Plus if you notice the top 4 have pretty much all fought each other. Khan has the better resume out of Thurman/Brook imo also. Brook best win to date is Porter, which is solid. But don't get him in my top 5. However, I'm pretty sure he will be there in the next couple of years. Thurman has a good win over Chaves and Guerrero which puts him just above Brook. Again, just my opinion.
                Opinions should not over look objectivity, JMM hasn't fought in ages and lost to Bradley quite clearly.

                Brook beat a world titlist in Porter who many said was going to KO him. Chaves is a b level slugger and guerrero has done nothing of not since getting embarrassed by mayweather.

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                  #98
                  1. Mayweather
                  2. Pac
                  3. Bradley
                  4. Brook
                  5. Khan
                  6. Maidana
                  7. Thurman
                  8. Porter
                  9. Rios
                  10. Alexander

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by vorgaphe
                    1. Mayweather
                    2. Pac
                    3. Bradley
                    4. Brook
                    5. Khan
                    6. Maidana
                    7. Thurman
                    8. Porter
                    9. Rios
                    10. Alexander
                    Apart from the positions of Thurman and Rios, that's a good list, very good in fact. Just wish there's a round robin of fights between Brook, Khan and Bradley, with a second one between Porter, Maidana and Alexander/Thurman.

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                    • techliam
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by -MEGA-
                      I'm kinda ranking them off of accomplishments/competition. JMM win over Pac has been the best WW win in years IMO. Plus if you notice the top 4 have pretty much all fought each other. Khan has the better resume out of Thurman/Brook imo also. Brook best win to date is Porter, which is solid. But don't get him in my top 5. However, I'm pretty sure he will be there in the next couple of years. Thurman has a good win over Chaves and Guerrero which puts him just above Brook. Again, just my opinion.
                      So your criteria for JMM is that he has the best Welterweight win in years, which I agree with

                      Yet you seem to use another for Brook/Khan. Based on Welterweight wins, Brook clearly has fought better competition - the Porter win alone trumps anything Khan has done at Welterweight.

                      I don't really understand the logic there

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