Mayweather-Golovkin is Mayweather-Canelo Pt. 2

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  • FLYBOY
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    #21
    Originally posted by Willthethrill
    I think floyd wins easily but these are two different styles. Canelo is a boxer puncher, ggg is more of a pressure fighter who is far superior at cutting off the ring
    At 154, there will be no cutting off the ring (low stamina) and not as much pressure (low stamina).

    And obviously much less power.

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    • hugh grant
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      #22
      We don't know how much 154 will effect GGG, but he says he can do it. But Floyd isn't one to worry about that. He hopes it will effect GGG. That has never been a barrier for Floyid. He gets less credit for it, but again, when has Floyd ever been worried about credit?

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        #23
        Originally posted by FLYBOY
        At 154, there will be no cutting off the ring (low stamina) and not as much pressure (low stamina).

        And obviously much less power.
        That certainly isn't factual or based on anything whatsoever since none of us have ever seen GGG at 154.

        Could it be done where he's physically fine? Absolutely. Could it be done where he's "drained" and not healthy? Absolutely. We don't know. He'd be very smart to work on cutting weight over a long course of time in a healthy way and not cut weight drastically in a short amount of time (like Chad Dawson against Ward, for example). We've seen another middleweight champ get down to 156 without any problem whatsoever (Hopkins) so it's possible. But this fight isn't happening at any weight so it doesn't matter (I certainly don't blame Floyd for that).

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          #24
          Originally posted by FLYBOY
          Drained by 2 lbs?

          Canelo started fighting pro in 2005 at 140 lbs.

          GGG started fighting pro in 2006 at 160 lbs.

          GGG is not going to have much of his power at 154. Who knows how much power he'll have at 154. Nobody can say for sure. But if you look at their history, you can see that at 154 GGG will be very drained. Much more drained than Canelo was after losing 2 lbs.
          Big difference when you turn pro at 15. We've seen now how much harder it is for him to cut weight now that he's grown into his adult body. He'll still probably end up growing a little bit. There's a reason why his highest weight in the ring is higher than GGG's ever been. Granted it's only a pound but Canelo consistently rehydrates to 170+ while GGG hovers around 170-171, disregarding the Rubio fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by FLYBOY
            Drained by 2 lbs?

            Canelo started fighting pro in 2005 at 140 lbs.

            GGG started fighting pro in 2006 at 160 lbs.

            GGG is not going to have much of his power at 154. Who knows how much power he'll have at 154. Nobody can say for sure. But if you look at their history, you can see that at 154 GGG will be very drained. Much more drained than Canelo was after losing 2 lbs.
            Canelo was 172 fight night vs Trout, one fight prior to Floyd. He's usually over 170, at least as heavy as GGG.

            Iole thinks there's ample evidence GGG could make 154. Remember Hopkins made 156 when he beat Oscar, and Hop was both older and naturally bigger than GGG

            "I'm not suggesting that Mayweather should fight Golovkin or should be ridiculed if he declines to do so if such a bout is offered, because he is a welterweight and Golovkin is a middleweight. That said, it's not outrageous to suggest that they fight, because Mayweather does hold a 154-pound belt and Golovkin has repeatedly said he could make 154 pounds easily. If you're a 154-pound champion, then you should be ready, willing and able to fight anyone who can make the 154-pound limit.

            There was ample evidence presented just last week that proves Golovkin could make it. On the Monday before the fight, he weighed 161 pounds, just one over the middleweight limit and only seven away from the super welterweight limit."

            The middleweight champion still hasn't fought a truly elite opponent and that's what he needs to do to cement his reputation as one of his sport's greatest fighters.

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              #26
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Canelo was 172 fight night vs Trout, one fight prior to Floyd. He's usually over 170, at least as heavy as GGG.

              Iole thinks there's ample evidence GGG could make 154. Remember Hopkins made 156 when he beat Oscar, and Hop was both older and naturally bigger than GGG

              "I'm not suggesting that Mayweather should fight Golovkin or should be ridiculed if he declines to do so if such a bout is offered, because he is a welterweight and Golovkin is a middleweight. That said, it's not outrageous to suggest that they fight, because Mayweather does hold a 154-pound belt and Golovkin has repeatedly said he could make 154 pounds easily. If you're a 154-pound champion, then you should be ready, willing and able to fight anyone who can make the 154-pound limit.

              There was ample evidence presented just last week that proves Golovkin could make it. On the Monday before the fight, he weighed 161 pounds, just one over the middleweight limit and only seven away from the super welterweight limit."

              http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...162607132.html
              so if they fight and Floyd wins, make sure any poster that says GGG is drained you give them redk and tell them they are full of sh-t.

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                #27
                Chill, this fight will never happened. Floyd aint that brave.

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                  #28
                  GGG has more in common with Castillo than Canelo, and yes Castillo drained to make 135. Floyd don't want any of that.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    so if they fight and Floyd wins, make sure any poster that says GGG is drained you give them redk and tell them they are full of sh-t.
                    I don't give red ks. It's possible GGG will be drained, though far from a given. Provided 154 with no dehydration clause, major ,,credit to fmj just for taking the risk, Pac DhL style

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      I don't give red ks. It's possible GGG will be drained, though far from a given. Provided 154 with no dehydration clause, major ,,credit to fmj just for taking the risk, Pac DhL style
                      You didn't just equate GGG at 154 to ODH at 147? If so, then yes GGG will be drained.

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