The Great 'NSB' Divide

[DeadLikeMe]

Haha that is hilarious, I got a red K once and I was called a slick back by some Rican simply because I dislike Cotto and love Canelo.
Hilarious.

This place has seen some hilariously epic Mexican vs. Rican battles...sadly most of the threads are long locked or deleted.

[RED REP]

GGG gets hated on because he's fighting the bottom of the barrel in terms of talent, while calling out smaller fighters, while avoiding bigger fighters. I don't need to hear why can't big fights, that's he's tried. I don't need to hear or care about that ****. When you're a victim of circumstance, it happens, but when you hear it about EVERY potential opponent, there's going to be backlash whether it's your fault or not.

Some people hate GGG because he's white, we know this as fact. But some people hate Floyd because he's black we know this as fact. Some people hate Manny because he's Asian (Same people that hate GGG, go figure) People hate Cotto because he's PR. People hate because that's what they do, but hating on GGG for what he's currently doing... his team brought it on themselves and now him and his fans can't take the heat.

Which isn't surprising. GGG fans want him to be the best thing in boxing, yet when the pressure that comes with that starts to come to a boil they want to hide or make excuses.

Sorry you're wrong. This isn't the thread to argue over this but, Murray certainly isn't bottom of the barrel!

[LacedUp]

There are three fighters I'm genuinely high on right now.

Kell Brook
Anthony Joshua
Tyson Fury

I like a lot of fighters, but don't really consider myself a 'fan' of many right now.

[The Big Dunn]

Haha that is hilarious, I got a red K once and I was called a slick back by some Rican simply because I dislike Cotto and love Canelo.
Hilarious.

Dude, Ive been called a ******* because I complained Floyd held Maidana too much in the 2nd fight so I called him little black wlad.

A lot of posters log on ****faced or high so they say some crazy things.

[Beater_of_ass]

Sorry you're wrong. This isn't the thread to argue over this but, Murray certainly isn't bottom of the barrel!

You make a thread about GGG, someone posts a video about him being hated on because they are racist. I comment on both and it's not the place for it? WTF? Lol, you're a few fries short of a happy meal my friend.

Murray isn't the bottom of the barrel, and neither was Geale. So what? Lara and Trout weren't bottom of the barrel either but when you follow that up Monroe, Angulo and Kirkland... you're going to get **** for it when before them they fought bottom of the barrel competition and then went right back to bums.

Fighting 2 B class fighters in 30, and in Canelo's case nearly 50 pro-fights, you aren't fighting tough competition. There is no Floyd, Manny or even Cotto resume (win or loss) type of names on a their lists (except Canelo's schooling). It's a list of has beens, never was, with a good fighter here and there, that's a weak ass resume and both get **** for it as they should.

[Beater_of_ass]

Dude, Ive been called a ******* because I complained Floyd held Maidana too much in the 2nd fight so I called him little black wlad.

A lot of posters log on ****faced or high so they say some crazy things.

I tend to think me being high leads to a lot of typo's and skipped words as opposed to saying crazy things. Just saying.

[PlasterWraps]

LSC is not a dude in that category IMO. If you think that is the reason, ok.

He didn't KO Stivernne but had him hurt many times. I understand your point but that just doesn't seem plausible to me.

Calling the post race baiting is a childish way of avoiding the point being made. I am one of the biggest Deontay critics here on NSB. We are not discussing criticism, we are discussing why he isn't embraced when he is as "exciting" as anyone in the sport by NSB's definition.

Other fighters have been embraced while they are destroying no hopers. When they destroy a no hoper they do not face anywhere near the backlash. That seems odd if "excitement" is what it is all about.

Dunn, my man, you left it there in the air open for people to misinterpret about it being racially motivated.

People are crapping on Deontay because he fights Salka type opposition, most of the time. The Stiverne wasn't FOTY candidate or anything, but was at least exciting because Stiverne at least has a pulse. But that's one fight in 33 now? If he was always 33-0 while knocking out fringe contenders (you know, the Arreola's of the world) instead of Salka type opposition he would be more liked and labelled as exciting.

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn, my man, you left it there in the air open for people to misinterpret about it being racially motivated.

People are crapping on Deontay because he fights Salka type opposition, most of the time. The Stiverne wasn't FOTY candidate or anything, but was at least exciting because Stiverne at least has a pulse. But that's one fight in 33 now? If he was always 33-0 while knocking out fringe contenders (you know, the Arreola's of the world) instead of Salka type opposition he would be more liked and labelled as exciting.

Respectfully, I can't worry about that but I can understand your point. I will try and refrain from that in the future.

You are getting at my exact point- the definition of "exciting". Deontay KOing a bum, well talk about the bum. Garcia KOing Salka, talk about Salka.

Kov koing Caparello, talk about Kov's power. GGG koing Monroe, talk about Monroe and his ranking, not if he had a chance or not. Canelo koing Kirkland, talk about the KO, not Kirkland being out for so long.

That is a huge difference to me. I'd really like to know why it exists.

[BodiesInFlight]

LSC is not a dude in that category IMO. If you think that is the reason, ok.

He didn't KO Stivernne but had him hurt many times. I understand your point but that just doesn't seem plausible to me.

Calling the post race baiting is a childish way of avoiding the point being made. I am one of the biggest Deontay critics here on NSB. We are not discussing criticism, we are discussing why he isn't embraced when he is as "exciting" as anyone in the sport by NSB's definition.

Other fighters have been embraced while they are destroying no hopers. When they destroy a no hoper they do not face anywhere near the backlash. That seems odd if "excitement" is what it is all about.

Kovalev and Golovkin are on most peoples p4p list, not just on NSB but boxing in general, i don't see Wilder on many lists, and it has ZERO to do with racism so cut that crap out.

[Crazylegs77]

Entertaining thread.

NSB is an odd place, many extreme views. Much of it is trolling to get a reaction out of fans of opposing fighters. I hope.

I still remember people so high on Jermain Taylor back in the day. He outworked Hopkins, before that fought guys like Joppy. Then went on to fight Winky (who I thought beat JT), Ouma, Corey Spinks in a close fight. Smaller guys. Finally he fights Pavlik. There was actually an outcry in NSB after that fight. If you can believe it some were outraged how JT didnt get a proper count while he was slumped in the corner. While Pavlik did get a 10 count, and how the fight should have been stopped when Pavlik went down. So silly.

Personally Im a fan of well matched competitive fights. Fighters who use their talent to overcome their opponent, not relying on excessive clinching and movement that is only used to avoid fighting/waste time rather than movement used to set up retaliation. Refs need to be held accountable and forced to adhere to some level of sameness. Not a fan of politics, nationalism, ethnicity based fanboysism, hyped up olympians spoon fed cab drivers until they get title shots, champs who holding belts hostage, sob story based dismissal of warranted criticism ie Danny Jacobs...etc etc.