Ward on BET gets 325K viewers

[MDPopescu]

golovkin and monroe jr's combined purses amounted to $1.6m; ward's purse against paul smith was $2m. do you see wherein lies the problem?

... but what a show it was!

[bigjavi973]

I put:

"Ward resume > GGG lack there of resume"

and all the little GGG fans get heart attacks

"Dont be talkin bout GGG man!"

[Barcham]

As I asked Barcham and T18Z, did you see Ward say this or are you speculating based on his previous purses?

As I said previously, your argument is flawed because every fight/fighter doesn't belong on PPV. GGG and ward may NEVER be PPv stars. That fact shouldn't prevent this fight from happening.

HBO can easily afford that amount. This isn't some minor TV station.

HBO exists to make money, not as a charity for spoiled fighters with an overinflated sense of self worth like Ward. It was widely reported in the various boxing media that Ward had been sent on his way by both Showtime and HBO due to his purse demands for his tune up fights.

For this fight to be on regular HBO, Ward has to be ready to accept regular HBO broadcast B side money. You are correct in saying that GGG on his own may never be a PPV star. In fact once Floyd and Manny retire, there may never be another solo PPB star for a generation or more, if ever again. All PPV fights may be based on the combination of fighters.

That being said, it is HBO's choice that they want this fight to be PPV level before accepting it. That is their choice due to the expense involved in the fight. You don't have to like it or accept it. I don't think HBO give a damn. They just want to make money, not lose it.

[NEETzsche]

As I asked Barcham and T18Z, did you see Ward say this or are you speculating based on his previous purses?

As I said previously, your argument is flawed because every fight/fighter doesn't belong on PPV. GGG and ward may NEVER be PPv stars. That fact shouldn't prevent this fight from happening.

HBO can easily afford that amount. This isn't some minor TV station.

hbo boxing has a budget distinct from hbo as a whole. they simply will not pay $6m or whatever for <2m viewers. if ward was willing to accept lower than $2m the fight would have been made already. you're living in a fantasy world if you think he's going to fight golovkin for less than he got against smith and rodriguez when his whole reason for calling out golovkin is to get paid. once again: k2 already approached hbo about facing ward and hbo and ward said no - that means the fight doesn't make financial sense yet

[bigjavi973]

Sure, isn't that why Cotto doesn't want to fight GGG?

Wasn't that the excuse FloStans had been using for years?

Now that the tables are turned, you want to say it's a bad excuse? GTFO

AAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You are a pacquiao fan! Makes sense you would hop on GGG's nuts so fast.

Also, when did Cotto say he doesn't want to fight GGG? Link & quote please.

[Barcham]

I put:

"Ward resume > GGG lack there of resume"

and all the little GGG fans get heart attacks

"Dont be talkin bout GGG man!"

Shelby Pudwill. 'Poo Bear' Buchanan. Nothing more need be said.

[Guest]

And I was one of those viewers.

Because I get BET and don't get FOXSPORTS2.

It was a pretty good show. Ward didn't hit and hold at all. He didn't have to as he was levels above Smith.

Doesn't seem like he's much of a puncher as he was hitting Smith flush and Smith although beaten up never went down.

Honestly, if Ward fights like this in the future, he will do just fine numbers wise.

[kiaba360]

Essentially, these #'s show that even hardcore fans didn't care all that much. I honestly thought that it would do better, since Ward has done good #'s on HBO. What were the #'s for Lemieux/N'Dam? I doubt they were any better.

[radioraheem]

When barbers are giving stock tips, get out of the market--- Warren Buffet
Listening to all the cab drivers and janitors I know realize who should really be running the world----George Bernard Shaw

To which one may add: When Boxing Scene posters start talking about a niche network and the success rate of its ratings via Ward.... Be scared, very scared!!!

To the British contingency that has a man crush on the Cobra hood/foreskin unfortunately no amount of poor ratings for Ward will fix Carl. he was done in by the SOG man! Also much as Froch is liked in England, if one travels to Oakland one would see a lot of love for Ward. So while Froch may pack em in...

That was the only quote I enjoyed. That one was pretty damn good.

[The Hammer]

That and because he sucks.

Really?

He's had a longer time as heavyweight champion than Ward has had at super middleweight.

Why do you approve of Ward's holding, but not Klitschko's?