Comments Thread For: Lemieux's Next Stop: Mandatory Defense, Not Golovkin

[The Big Dunn]

Suddenly? Weren't those tweets from 1+ years ago? Why would he have been on their radar coming off a loss to Canelo?






And who are these guys Golovkin is doing the same thing to? Team Lara has never once contacted them about a fight. Golovkin has never rejected a fight.



Why would you jump to the conclusion he's being protected by HBO if HBO rejects Lara? If Lara got paid over a million dollars to fight Devlin Rodriguez, it seems likely he would overprice himself for a Golovkin fight, isn't that a possibility too? Regardless, it hasn't even got that far being that Team Lara have never discussed a fight with Golovkin and Haymon doesn't have PBC fighters fight on HBO. If/when that changes and HBO/PBC have a working relationship, then great, it would open up doors to a bunch of fights we aren't getting in boxing right now.

Golovkin has been trying to fight boxers much better than Lara and HBO has been behind those fights. There is no conspiracy here to avoid Lara; he's simply with Al Haymon.

He and HBO once rejected Sergio mora.

It makes sense that HBO wants to protect their investment in GGG by not matching him against someone that could beat him (ward) or someone that would make an ugly fight that might not end in a ko (Lara). What one gets from a previous fight doesn't mean they will "price themselves out" of a subsequent fight. that argument doesn't hold water.

Lara isn't a PBC fighter Natas. he doesn't have an exclusive PBC deal. Haymon didn't quit HBO, HBO made the call.

No, Golovkin has been trying to fight cash cows. they have told him no. GGG isn't entitled to a big payday.

No one is saying conspiracy. We are asking since he can't get who he wants why wont he try and fight someone who isn't there just to get KTFO?

GGG should have to prove himself just like everyone else.

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He and HBO once rejected Sergio mora.

It makes sense that HBO wants to protect their investment in GGG by not matching him against someone that could beat him (ward) or someone that would make an ugly fight that might not end in a ko (Lara). What one gets from a previous fight doesn't mean they will "price themselves out" of a subsequent fight. that argument doesn't hold water.

Lara isn't a PBC fighter Natas. he doesn't have an exclusive PBC deal. Haymon didn't quit HBO, HBO made the call.

No, Golovkin has been trying to fight cash cows. they have told him no. GGG isn't entitled to a big payday.

No one is saying conspiracy. We are asking since he can't get who he wants why wont he try and fight someone who isn't there just to get KTFO?

GGG should have to prove himself just like everyone else.

Lara is with Haymon and he just headlined a PBC card.

Golovkin isn't only trying to fight cash cows, this very thread is about Golvokin vs Lemieux who is far from a cash cow. We can go over the list of guys he's tried to fight who aren't very popular.

You jumped to the conclusion that since HBO isn't working with Haymon that must mean they are protecting Golovkin. It's not about protecting Golovkin it's about the Haymon vs HBO feud, much like you don't see any effort in Team GGG going after Quillin or Jacobs (or anyone else who is with Haymon for that matter like Sergio Mora). And yeah, if Lara made a million against Rodriguez it's safe to assume he's going to ask for at least that much, if not more, for a Golovkin fight. That's just common sense. Haymon fighters have always had a reputation for being overpaid, that's nothing new. But like I said, it doesn't even matter since there has been no talks either way. If Lara would take less money and he's allowed on HBO, excellent, make it happen.

As for GGG rejecting Sergio Mora before he signed to Haymon, pretty sure HBO didn't care to have Mora on their network and Mora said something like he wouldn't fight Golovkin for $400k, something like that but that was a couple years ago I don't really remember.

Of course GGG has to prove himself and that's what he's been trying to do!

Sturm wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.
N'Dam was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.
Martinez didn't want to fight.
Dmity Pirog was scheduled to fight GGG, injured his back in training pulled out.
Chavez jr pulled out.
Froch is going to retire, so it seems.
Lemeiux needs two more fights.
Cotto didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

Pretty hard to prove he's the best when the best in his division haven't been willing to fight him. As a result we're arguing over guys like Lara.

[-Kev-]

That's too bad, I really wanted to see GGG vs the great Lemiuex. He would have gotten so much credit for that win.

[rajaomair]

Lara is with Haymon and he just headlined a PBC card.

Golovkin isn't only trying to fight cash cows, this very thread is about Golvokin vs Lemieux who is far from a cash cow. We can go over the list of guys he's tried to fight who aren't very popular.

You jumped to the conclusion that since HBO isn't working with Haymon that must mean they are protecting Golovkin. It's not about protecting Golovkin it's about the Haymon vs HBO feud, much like you don't see any effort in Team GGG going after Quillin or Jacobs (or anyone else who is with Haymon for that matter like Sergio Mora). And yeah, if Lara made a million against Rodriguez it's safe to assume he's going to ask for at least that much, if not more, for a Golovkin fight. That's just common sense. Haymon fighters have always had a reputation for being overpaid, that's nothing new. But like I said, it doesn't even matter since there has been no talks either way. If Lara would take less money and he's allowed on HBO, excellent, make it happen.

As for GGG rejecting Sergio Mora before he signed to Haymon, pretty sure HBO didn't care to have Mora on their network and Mora said something like he wouldn't fight Golovkin for $400k, something like that but that was a couple years ago I don't really remember.

Of course GGG has to prove himself and that's what he's been trying to do!

Sturm wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.
N'Dam was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.
Martinez didn't want to fight.
Dmity Pirog was scheduled to fight GGG, injured his back in training pulled out.
Chavez jr pulled out.
Froch is going to retire, so it seems.
Lemeiux needs two more fights.
Cotto didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

Pretty hard to prove he's the best when the best in his division haven't been willing to fight him. As a result we're arguing over guys like Lara.

You missed these 3,

Quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol

Canelo - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG. There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

Lee - recently in an interview said that I won't call-out GGG even after the reporter said that you must call him out because you are now a "champion" see below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMpnyC6kDg

Some other reasons that you missed

Martinez - His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

Froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now there is no peep from him about GGG

Chavez - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

[Ravens Fan]

He and HBO once rejected Sergio mora.

It makes sense that HBO wants to protect their investment in GGG by not matching him against someone that could beat him (ward) or someone that would make an ugly fight that might not end in a ko (Lara). What one gets from a previous fight doesn't mean they will "price themselves out" of a subsequent fight. that argument doesn't hold water.

Lara isn't a PBC fighter Natas. he doesn't have an exclusive PBC deal. Haymon didn't quit HBO, HBO made the call.

No, Golovkin has been trying to fight cash cows. they have told him no. GGG isn't entitled to a big payday.

No one is saying conspiracy. We are asking since he can't get who he wants why wont he try and fight someone who isn't there just to get KTFO?

GGG should have to prove himself just like everyone else.

GGG has had 14 defense and seven have been against Ring top ten fighters. If there is a list of fighters that have in recent history consistently fought Ring top ten fighters I bet its a short one.

If GGG has to prove himself why doesn't Lara have to? If Lara is in such a hurry to fight GGG why is he still fighting at 154?

Its also not like he is down at 154 blasting through the ranks and unifying the division. Therefore why doesn't he have to move up and prove himself before he gets a crack at a middleweight belt?

I also believe that other then for Alvarez Lara and GGG level of competition has been pretty much the same. And didn't Lara also lose to Canelo?

[Ray*]

That's too bad, I really wanted to see GGG vs the great Lemiuex. He would have gotten so much credit for that win.

Lol, I know right!!!

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You missed a couple

Quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money

Lee - recently in an interview said that I won't call-out GGG even after the reporter said that you must call him out because you are now a "champion" see below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMMpnyC6kDg

Some other reasons that you missed

Martinez - His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

Froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now there is no peep from him about GGG

Chavez - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

Lee was actually set to fight Golovkin though but then GGG's dad died and the fight was scrapped. Lee went on to win the vacant belt against Korobov and perhaps now he's in no rush to fight GGG, but he was willing to fight him before so that's not on Lee. I think the winner of Lee vs BJS is a possibility for GGG in the future.

Yeah, Quillin has been ridiculous with his statements like the May-Pac PPV money remakr, But he's with Haymon now so even if he wanted to fight GGG it's unlikely it would happen. Same goes for Jacobs (he also said he would love to fight GGG...just not right now).

[ИATAS]

That's too bad, I really wanted to see GGG vs the great Lemiuex. He would have gotten so much credit for that win.

Unification fights are the next best thing since he couldn't get a big name. No one is saying Lemiuex is great but he's a title holder, he's entertaining and he can **** (aren't you always complaining GGG hasn't fought any big punchers?).

[MPX309]