When will you give Brook the respect he deserves?

[Szef]

I've already stated I fully believe Brook wins that fight.

Yeah well, until he does, Manny Pacquiao is the second best WW in the world.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Yeah well, until he does, Manny Pacquiao is the second best WW in the world.

I disagree.

Kell Brook is the 2nd best welterweight in the world.

[Szef]

I disagree.

Kell Brook is the 2nd best welterweight in the world.

Good to know.

[witter87]

If anything after last night the Porter win looks less impressive for Brook.Porter is not a boxer he is a caveman fighter who dives in and smothers his own punches,he can't even throw a combination ffs.too many people including me bought into the hype that Porter was some killer after the Malignaggi win but the fact is he is just not that good.

[LacedUp]

Yeah well, until he does, Manny Pacquiao is the second best WW in the world.

In what world? He's faced two top WWs in the last two years, once he was KTFO and the other was dominated.

[Szef]

In what world? He's faced two top WWs in the last two years, once he was KTFO and the other was dominated.

He's faced a HOFer, a guy who is and always has been his stylistic nightmare, and an ATG, P4P no 1.

Oh, he's also faced and beaten a P4P fighter in Timothy Bradley. Twice.

Kell Brook hasn't.

[LacedUp]

Why do you think that happens? Alexander has only lost twice at welterweight at that too to some good fighters. And in any case, how is Brook v Alexander any worse than Gavin or Rios? LOL In fact, it's ten times better.

Because Alexander has lost to fighters far worse than Kell Brook? Multiple times. Khan, Porter, Matthysse, Bradley, Kotelnik etc.

He's a flat footed, featherfisted southpaw. You literally couldn't make a better opponent for Brook than Alexander.

How is Alexander a better fight than Rios? At least Rios comes to fight. Nobody wants to watch Alexander fight. Ever.

I see it differently. Porter is a pressure fighter who likes to work in close. He was not head butting Brook. When he got close enough to work inside, Brook dealt with that by putting the clamps on his arms and negating his ability to punch. I am not sure that is legal. I think the rules of boxing needs a better definition concerning that.

I can see a comparison to the Ali-Frazier matchup, when Frazier was able to get Ali to the ropes, Ali did not just put a clinch on Frazier and cease all activity. He held his arms up as a guard. Frazier tried to punch his arms or find a spot to punch through the guard to the head or body.

Brook held.

He was not headbutting Brook? Erhm.. How did he get his cut in the second round then which was from a clear headbutt? In fact, the dude jumped in with his head so much he got himself cut!

If you can show me where Porter landed 5 clean punches the entire fight, I might entertain you. Until then..

What are you on about? So many people treat Kell as the number 2 WW and that he should be fighting Mayweather. He has gotten more than is fair share of credit, the only reason why it's not as high as it could be is because he's fought NO NO Dan and Frankie Gavin. When he beats Rios, noise will return.

No not really. As you can see in this thread people are saying Porter wasn't that good. As i've said, people who said Porter was a beast now say he's nothing. I mean, he just bested Broner 9-3 or something like that imo. He's a good fighter Porter and will give anyone a fight. He'd spark Khan in 6 for example. He's just not good enough to beat Brook.

Probably about the time you begin to give Wladimir Klitschko the respect he deserves.

I'm not asking anyone to find Brook entertaining. But I know nobody feels like scratching their eyes out and cursing boxing forever after watching Brook fight like everyone does when they've seen one excruciatingly boring round from Wlad.

[LacedUp]

He's faced a HOFer, a guy who is and always has been his stylistic nightmare, and an ATG, P4P no 1.

Oh, he's also faced and beaten a P4P fighter in Timothy Bradley. Twice.

Kell Brook hasn't.

I'm not hating on that. But how is he number two when he lost to Marquez by nuke and Mayweather by lopsided decision? That makes no sense to me.

P4P Bradley. lol that was a myth. Whatever, not hating on Pacquiao. He's obviously a good fighter. Does he beat Kell Brook? Pff, not a chance in hell, but he's still good.

Just not the same Pacquiao who fought Cotto or Margarito even though some people still want to believe he is.

[alexguiness]

Brook needs to step up.

Porter is his best win and that was a close fight.

Until he beats a Bradley / Thurman / Khan then I'm not convinced.

I want to believe in Brook as I believe he has all the tools to be a top WW.

Beating up Dan, Gavin and even Rios won't help his supporters.

[LacedUp]

Brook needs to step up.

Porter is his best win and that was a close fight.

Until he beats a Bradley / Thurman / Khan then I'm not convinced.

I want to believe in Brook as I believe he has all the tools to be a top WW.

Beating up Dan, Gavin and even Rios won't help his supporters.

lol good luck getting Khan in the ring with Brook

Interviewer: "Who do you want to fight?"

Khan: "You know I'm looking at the best WWs in the world. The top guys. Guys like Mayweather (begging), Pacquiao (can't fight him he knows it)Bradley, (can't fight him he knows that), Marquez (old injured man), Thurman (please Khan, you're not fooling anyone) - those type of guys"

Literally mentions everyone except Porter - because brook beat him - Brook - because he's scared - Maidana - because he's about to compete at heavyweight and he's also frightened to death of him.