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  • #71
    If it's not Ibragimov or Povetkin, yeah actually like to watch him box. His stinkers are as stinky as they get but I do like to watch him box most of the time. He's getting up there and I think the Povetkin fight was a sign that he will buy himself all the time he can get from the ref with compact guys bull rushing. If the ref in the Jennings fight allowed it, we would've just had Povetkin again. But I'm judging on his whole 60 something fights, most of it has been good for me. If it was just his fights from before 2008 I'd say I enjoyed everything pretty much. Even his losses were actually pretty entertaining. After that, more like 75%. But I admit the other 25% pushing it. But even Ali had his stinkers when he got into the last part of his career.

    I kind of expected with his style and stamina history that the clinching would get worse if he kept boxing and it has. I have more of a problem with the leaning though personally. I've had guys lean on me like that when I dipped down and that just shouldn't be part of the sport if the ref's keen. You need to distinguish between head control and literally putting your body weight down on the back of your opponent if you're the ref. I understand that Steward did (and other coaches do) advise you try to use that as a regular tactic if you can get away with it but to me Wlad's clinching is nowhere as big a deal as that and that's what Pabon was worst with on Povetkin imo. Refs need to be aware of that and the rule book should disallow it. I'm not even sure if it does off hand. But I hate it and when Dawson threw Hops off his back I thought man good for you, brother.

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    • #72
      Lol @ he mofos voting he's too scared and are Floyd stans.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Crazylegs77 View Post
        Some of his fights are painful to watch. Some are exciting due to a combination of his weak chin & KO power. Then again some would say he is a great technician. Some of the same people who say other fighters who fight similarly are great technicians yet Klitchko is boring.
        TS is one of those people.

        Love how he created Wladimir Klitschko bashing and Kell Brook praising threads within 24 hours

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Szef View Post
          TS is one of those people.

          Love how he created Wladimir Klitschko bashing and Kell Brook praising threads within 24 hours
          Mate, I'd hate to say you don't know shit about boxing. But if you're trying to tell me Brook and Wladimir fights ANYWHERE near the same way, I might have to.

          And btw, this tread isn't made today.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            Mate, I'd hate to say you don't know shit about boxing. But if you're trying to tell me Brook and Wladimir fights ANYWHERE near the same way, I might have to.

            And btw, this tread isn't made today.
            Mate, I hate to break the news to you, but in his biggest fight Kell Brook fought very much like Wladimir Klitschko does.

            And I'm not saying they fight the same way, but the fact is that against Porter he pulled a Klitschko.

            So when you create a thread 'Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?' and use Klitschko's absoulte worst fight as his highlights I point out your hypocrisy.

            As for the date thing, you're right, my bad.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Szef View Post
              Mate, I hate to break the news to you, but in his biggest fight Kell Brook fought very much like Wladimir Klitschko does.

              And I'm not saying they fight the same way, but the fact is that against Porter he pulled a Klitschko.

              So when you create a thread 'Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?' and use Klitschko's absoulte worst fight as his highlights I point out your hypocrisy.

              As for the date thing, you're right, my bad.
              No he didn't at all. All you saw was the clinching - which by the way was the only fight ever where Brook has ever clinched in a fight. He used it as a form of defense for when Porter was rushing in, head first.

              Klitschko uses clinching/leaning/holding as a form of attack - in every fight. There's a big big difference. There's a reason the jab-right clinch is known today. It's because of Klitschko. jab jab grab. Granted, against Povetkin it was grab grab grab.

              I don't have to use that fight. Show me one fight other than Wach where he didn't have ridiculous size advantage where Klitschko didn't initiate 10 clinches a round. I'd like to see it.

              I'll wait.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Szef View Post
                Mate, I hate to break the news to you, but in his biggest fight Kell Brook fought very much like Wladimir Klitschko does.

                And I'm not saying they fight the same way, but the fact is that against Porter he pulled a Klitschko.

                So when you create a thread 'Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?' and use Klitschko's absoulte worst fight as his highlights I point out your hypocrisy.

                As for the date thing, you're right, my bad.
                LacedUp gets owned

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by yoz View Post
                  LacedUp gets owned
                  In what world did I get "owned"?

                  Certainly not this one.

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                  • #79
                    I dont find him that entertaining he fights abit like a fencer but i respect his skills and acknowledge him as one of the best heavyweights ever

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      No he didn't at all. All you saw was the clinching - which by the way was the only fight ever where Brook has ever clinched in a fight. He used it as a form of defense for when Porter was rushing in, head first.

                      Klitschko uses clinching/leaning/holding as a form of attack - in every fight. There's a big big difference. There's a reason the jab-right clinch is known today. It's because of Klitschko. jab jab grab. Granted, against Povetkin it was grab grab grab.

                      I don't have to use that fight. Show me one fight other than Wach where he didn't have ridiculous size advantage where Klitschko didn't initiate 10 clinches a round. I'd like to see it.

                      I'll wait.
                      Jesus Christ man, you're like a broken record. 'They both clinch, but my guy is excused because he uses it as his defence'.

                      Defence, offence - who cares? Clinching is clinching, it's awful to watch innit?

                      Yes, Klitschko does clinch, it's a part of his style. It is what it is. That's what you wanted to hear?

                      Also, Brook carried Gavin, he could've pulled the trigger much earlier if he wanted to, but he chose not to. Sounds familiar?

                      You're a fan of a boring fighter. Don't hate it, embrace it.

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