Arum falling out with HBO, shows interest with Showtime

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Bob arum is the best star maker in the business... He knows how to take a prospect to stardom..

Manny
Morales
Floyd
cotto
Oscar
Chavez jr
Pavlik
Foreman comeback

[AgainstTheRopes]

GGG, Canelo, Cotto, Kovalev, Chocolotito. HBO will be fine.

except that they all need opponents to fight.

[aldo5408]

Funny thing is that ggg is not the only one that gets mismatches in hbo look at arum. Garbage rios v alvarado trilogy. last week's fights were mismatches , Crawford fighting Beltran wtf

[aldo5408]

What has Top Rank contributed to HBO this year?

Rios-Alvarado III - garbage
Bradley-Vargas - average
Verdejo-Najerea - garbage
Crawford-Dulorme - average
Walters-Marriaga - average
Lomachenko-Rodriguez - garbage

I guess he gets some credit for the joint May-Pac telecast but that was led by Sho/MayP and it wasn't a spectacle either.

Are there any fights I have missed?

If Arum doesn't want to put good fights on HBO, then I doubt they'll miss him too much.

Didn't read this at first but you're absolutely right hbo is paying for arums and ggg's mismatches.

[SplitSecond]

What has Top Rank contributed to HBO this year?

Rios-Alvarado III - garbage
Bradley-Vargas - average
Verdejo-Najerea - garbage
Crawford-Dulorme - average
Walters-Marriaga - average
Lomachenko-Rodriguez - garbage

I guess he gets some credit for the joint May-Pac telecast but that was led by Sho/MayP and it wasn't a spectacle either.

Are there any fights I have missed?

If Arum doesn't want to put good fights on HBO, then I doubt they'll miss him too much.

Walter Marriaga was an excellent fight.
Anyway, unto my original intent for this response.

[aldo5408]

Walter Marriaga was an excellent fight.
Anyway, unto my original intent for this response.

Walters was -5000 that's an excellent fight to you?

[SplitSecond]

Walters was -5000 that's an excellent fight to you?

Marriaga is an excellent fighter, Walters is an excellent fighter, it was an excellent fight.

[CANELOLUJAH]

Arum is smart he knows you have to make and baby a fighter for awhile before you take off the trainer wheels.

[Weebler I]

Bob arum is the best star maker in the business... He knows how to take a prospect to stardom..

I've heard people give the credit to HBO, but let's say it's Arum and give the credit to him, why should HBO pay for fights they don't want at the prospect stage? they're trying to do numbers right now, they want to put on good fights.

[Mitchell Kane]

GGG, Canelo, Cotto, Kovalev, Chocolotito. HBO will be fine.

Golovkin and Kovalev don't even have that many important fights available in their weight classes (that can be made on HBO, without Haymon) so I'm not totally on board with HBO commiting to a whole bunch of their fights without a lot of quality opponents.

Cotto and Canelo...whoever loses that fight won't be all that important to HBO going forward.

Chocolatito...we'll see how much of an audience he contributes, we have no idea how much, if any, he moves the needle.