Official Timothy Bradley vs Jessie Vargas fight discussion thread

[NEETzsche]

that controversy at the end is just the excuse arum needed to make a rematch

[PACnPBFsuck]

I would accept a rematch.

If i'm Bradley, i'm moving on.

[mathed]

that controversy at the end is just the excuse arum needed to make a rematch

Bradley beats him much worse in a rematch. That is not a good idea for Vargas' well being.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bradley beats him much worse in a rematch. That is not a good idea for Vargas' well being.

Bradley was the only one who was on ***** street in the fight against a guy with 9 stoppages. Bradley should take the rematch and continue to stay away from real welterweights.

[Golden Boi 360]

if any other welterweight would've gotten rocked by Jessie Vargas in his first fight at 147 the criticism would be endless but Bradley seems to get a free pass.

[VG_Addict]

Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone else usually watch fights with sound off, whether it's on a stream or on YouTube?

I do, because frankly, most commentary is terrible.

[SplitSecond]

Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone else usually watch fights with sound off, whether it's on a stream or on YouTube?

I do, because frankly, most commentary is terrible.

I've done this only once. Can't remember the fight, but the commentary was driving me nuts.

[jas]

the ignorance is embrassing


vargas bent his knees, punched with velocity through the target and got his whole weight behind the punch and landed on the button in the 12th round and rocked tim so therefore timmy doesnt have an iron chin anymore?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone else usually watch fights with sound off, whether it's on a stream or on YouTube?

I do, because frankly, most commentary is terrible.

Your problem is you keep watching the HBO commentators. They're horrible.

Box Nation's commentators are WAY better and way less biased. They had nothing but praise for Bradley the entire time and even called out after the almost-botch that Vargas was cheering prematurely because he lost that fight.

For MayPac they were repeatedly saying, to paraphrase, that Pacquiao simply didn't have an answer, refused to press the action like he needed to, and Floyd was exerting too much control regardless of why or what. It was boiled down to the simple basics of what was going on in the ring.

Watch. Box. Nation.

[Combat Talk Radio]

The 2 rounds is debatable. Some guys here giving him one or two more. A lot of bias against Vargas coming into this fight. Vargas did well at the beginning. Faded in the middle and picked it up a little in the end. The way people trash Vargas here(who's only decent at best), If anything, Bradley should've looked better considering who he's supposed to be and who he was fighting.

Bradley dominated this dude for 10 rounds. 10 of them. That's domination. I gave Vargas rounds 3 and 8, which were rounds where Bradley took his foot off the gas. Round 12 is debatable because Bradley stopped defending, but still offensive.

Vargas is ***ing terrible yet he had Bradley stumbling round the ring, ready to go and the referee jumps in to stop the fight. That isn't luck?

Weeks jumps in to stop Canelo/Angulo after A SINGLE UPPERCUT and people are up in arms. "Nahh, Angulo was getting dominated the whole fight, it wouldn't have mattered, great call" "but that's how Angulo fights!!" Point is, it was after ONE uppercut and AT THAT MOMENT, Angulo was not yet in danger. It was a bad stoppage.

And I'm sharply reminded of Chavez/Taylor. Taylor was way ahead, Chavez was effective at punching. Chavez nails Taylor, ref stops the fight with 2 SECONDS REMAINING. Bad stoppage. Yes, I know Taylor was physically in bad shape, but 2 seconds wasn't going to add to that damage, it was done already. Let the man take the clear win he'd earned. Instead, we got a horrible outcome.

I was afraid we were seeing a repeat of that with a lesser Chavez.

And once again, Bradley fails to impress even when its basically a showcase fight. The guy is so average yet people rate him in the upper echelons of the P4P ratings. That's not overrated?

Ward is nowhere near as exciting. He has spots of brilliance but his overall is a very dull fight style compared to Bradley who puts his body on the line in every fight. Yet Ward's up there. Explain that.

Bradley's earned his P4P, he's a warrior who has only officially lost one fight.

I really thought Bradley would put on a complete domination and I'd be able to see a little of what you guys see in this guy. But he didn't, he almost gets KOed by a guy with 9 stoppages

As with MayPac, if you were expecting Bradley to get a knockout, you haven't been paying attention. He doesn't get knockouts. He hardly gets knockdowns. Thus, expecting such means you don't know **** about boxing.

Bradley boxed a masterclass in this fight, period. He fought better than he did against Chaves and Pacquiao by far, and considering his age, looked super impressive. If you can't gauge him on his strengths don't try. Yes, he makes mistakes. All boxers do, even Floyd. So what?