Comments Thread For: Team Wilder: We're Not Going To Sit, Wait For Povetkin

[BWC]

They want the fight, but sense reluctance and weakness on Wilder's part.

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins...eakness--91732

Okay. Sounds like nitpicking to me. Wilder destroyed Molina. Maybe he was working on stuff. Maybe he was trying to work the hook. Who knows?

[saintpat]

Right, let's go:

The same Bert Cooper who had been in against Rid**** Bowe, Ray Mercer and George Foreman in the two years prior to the fight?

The same George Foreman who had wins over Cooper and Gerry Cooney in the two years prior to the fight?

The same Larry Holmes who went into the Holyfield bout off the back beating Ray Mercer?

Tell me now, who, of note, has Molina fought? Chris Arreola? Three years ago? Where he was stopped inside a round?

GTFOH

Yes, the Cooper who "had been in with" those guys had been KOd in 2 by Foreman and Bowe, lol. And shut out by Mercer.

Foreman beat a Cooney who was coming off a KO loss ... 3 years earlier, and hadn't been in a ring since.


Mercer was raw and limited at that time. Holmes schooled him, but was not seen as any sort of true challenge for Holy.

If you want to act like Holy was taking all comers at that time, go ahead, but he was still developing and his team was carefully matching him early in his first reign no doubt.

[yoz]

Well everyone is calling Wilder a bum and overrated because of a fight he dominated outside of five punches in Molina so there is that.

I think Wilder can easily beat Povetkin and will when the fight is ready. We haven't hear anything from Team Povetkin either so who knows what they are thinking..

They want the fight, but sense reluctance and weakness on Wilder's part.

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins...eakness--91732

[BWC]

every fighter has had a bad fight in there careers. povetkins had many other fights besides huck so why judge him one one terrible fight? he was clearly out of shape that night and has improved steadily ever since. you think wilder hasnt been rocked and looked bad in any of his fights?

Well everyone is calling Wilder a bum and overrated because of a fight he dominated outside of five punches in Molina so there is that.

I think Wilder can easily beat Povetkin and will when the fight is ready. We haven't hear anything from Team Povetkin either so who knows what they are thinking..

[yoz]

Holyfield did, indeed, OVER TIME fight all comers.

But when he first won the heavyweight title, his first three defenses were against two over-40 heavyweights -- Foreman and Holmes -- and Bert Cooper.

He didn't look any better against Cooper than Wilder did against Molina.

In retrospect the Foreman defense looks more credible than it did at the time, but only because Big George later beat Moorer.

Right, let's go:

The same Bert Cooper who had been in against Rid**** Bowe, Ray Mercer and George Foreman in the two years prior to the fight?

The same George Foreman who had wins over Cooper and Gerry Cooney in the two years prior to the fight?

The same Larry Holmes who went into the Holyfield bout off the back beating Ray Mercer?

Tell me now, who, of note, has Molina fought? Chris Arreola? Three years ago? Where he was stopped inside a round?

GTFOH

[saintpat]

Povetkin should just make a public statement that he's ready to fight in September, if he hasn't already.

As many people have said, if you claim to be the champ then you better fight the best there is. Honestly, I've never been that high on Wilder but if he fights anyone other than Povetkin next, he's ducking for real.

Now, if we remember the last heavyweight champ from Alabama, Evander Holyfield, his motto was "I duck no one" because he was the real deal. Deontay, are you the real deal? Then step up and fight your number one contender and prove it - if you lose, you lose. You can always come back and fight another day.

trying and losing is better than not trying at all.

Holyfield did, indeed, OVER TIME fight all comers.

But when he first won the heavyweight title, his first three defenses were against two over-40 heavyweights -- Foreman and Holmes -- and Bert Cooper.

He didn't look any better against Cooper than Wilder did against Molina.

In retrospect the Foreman defense looks more credible than it did at the time, but only because Big George later beat Moorer.

[Elroy1]

Huck is certainly more than "ordinary", but he does have a laziness about him, somewhat like Abraham at times, and fights down to the level of competition. When he's geared up for a fight, he's dangerous as hell and extremely entertaining to watch. His fight with Povetkin was one of the best HW fights in the past decade.

Well that would be a more appropriate judgement there Foreign I didn't want to sound like I was overstating his case too much there but this LacedUp guy ****ting on him like that really bugged me! lol

[Foreign Soil]

Huck is certainly more than "ordinary", but he does have a laziness about him, somewhat like Abraham at times, and fights down to the level of competition. When he's geared up for a fight, he's dangerous as hell and extremely entertaining to watch. His fight with Povetkin was one of the best HW fights in the past decade.

[Elroy1]

No need to hype up Captain 'Ordinary' Huck. There's absolutely nothing "astounding" about him and if he wanted to move to heavyweight he would have done so. Instead he's happy feeding on bums for years and having wars with a 3rd grade fighter in Ola Afolabi.

Complete average joe. And you always big up guys who've given one of your favourites problems. Why? He's nothing special.

Povetkin wasn't the Povetkin he is today. He more than likely would destroy Huck now and probably just had a bad day.

This is to do with Huck personally.

Of course I think Povetkin would destroy him under normal circumstances.

Clearly you haven't even seen him fight though! Huck is an excellent and exciting fighter who has been the clear master of Cruiser. The guy is looking at the HOF, you know that thing that guys like you worship so much.

I reckon you ought to go watch a few fights for once and then get back to me and tell me how sorry you are for doubting.

I merely give credit where it is due, and not where it isn't.

You on the other hand sledge good boxers...

And you support bums!

[Ravens Fan]

I think people just want fighters to conform to their little desires when it means jack. It's Wilders career and these things take time. I mean wlad and Fury are fighting in early.Sep.and they.don't even have purse bids out yet. Settle the freak down. Maybe Povetkin is demanding the fight be in Moscow. Maybe Haymon wants it in Vegas. Maybe Povetkin wants certain gloves. Who the freak knows? Every fighter dreams of a true title shot. Wilder should maximize his chances..

Little desires?? My desires are to have sex with Kate Upton and Jessica Biel in no particular order and they have absolutely nothing to do with boxing. And to most fans Wilder isn't even legit yet and if he did manage to beat Sasha he would no doubt legitimize himself.

Haymon fighters are also the ones that have gained the reputation of not fighting who they should. And as of now Wilder seems to be simply following the same path.

I also did not watch Wilder fight Molina so I truly don't care what he does. But as I stated earlier if he is gong to run around spouting off that he is the heavyweight champ of the world he should prove it by fighting the best fighters. But instead there is talk of him possibly fighting Chris Arreola??? And that my friend is an absolute freakin joke, and not even a funny one!! We are done, or at least I am.