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  • BWC
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    #51
    Originally posted by BodiesInFlight
    Why does Joshua have to step up and prove himself to you but you're more than happy praising Wilder for fighting a bum in Molina. Ohh he's ranked 45th best heavyweight in the world. Woop-de-do.

    Joshua is still starting out, only had 13 fights and you're comparing him to a 29 year old belt holder who has based his entire career on beating cans.

    Joshua will likely step up the comp later this year or in 2016, yet Wilder who is more seasoned and supposed to be a champ is still fighting no hopers.
    Wilder has stepped up. He beat Stiverne. Molina is ranked No 7 by the WBC. Malik Scott is ranked top 25. Wilder's likely next opponent is Tony Thompson, a top 10 HW. These guys are decent fighters. Kevin Johnson went in there and laid down.

    I like Joshua but right now he is nothing more than a bum blaster. I think he can go far but everyone thought that about David Price too..

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      #52
      Originally posted by BWC
      Well Wilder won bronze after boxing for like a year and a half. Both are pretty impressive talents.

      I hate how Joshua is adding so much bulk. It's killing his mobility and he looks so stiff out there now. Wilder would run circles around him right now..
      I agree. You dont need to criticise one to praise the other though.

      Joshua bulking up will be will be proved rught or wrong over time. I agree with you though. He doesnt look like he has the frame that would naturally support that much muscle, which could lead to poor stamina and slower movement. But we'll see. Theres plenty of big athletes in other sports who remain quick and strong while keeping endurance.

      Edit: in the comment above you praise Wilder fighting Scott, and criticise Joshua for fighting Johnson because he 'laid down'? Talk about double standards

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        #53
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise
        I agree. You dont need to criticise one to praise the other though.

        Joshua bulking up will be will be proved rught or wrong over time. I agree with you though. He doesnt look like he has the frame that would naturally support that much muscle, which could lead to poor stamina and slower movement. But we'll see. Theres plenty of big athletes in other sports who remain quick and strong while keeping endurance.

        Edit: in the comment above you praise Wilder fighting Scott, and criticise Joshua for fighting Johnson because he 'laid down'? Talk about double standards
        Scott was hit with a hard check hook to the temple. That would put most people down..

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          #54
          Originally posted by BWC
          Scott was hit with a hard check hook to the temple. That would put most people down..
          Whereas Joshua tickled Johnson into submission

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            #55
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise
            Whereas Joshua tickled Johnson into submission
            Haha OK fair enough

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              #56
              Originally posted by Bronzebomber
              I love how so many people are doubting him against povetkin well you will be wrong again just like you were about stiverne and how he can't box more then 4 round and has no Chin. Watch the molina hit in SLOW MOTION! He got rocked and could of been knocked out!? You must be kidding yourself. Wilder will beat povetkin whenever they fight. Yeah he had a sloppy match but who cares he got the win in front of his crowd. You think the crowd came there to see a first round knockout? Wilder is a crowd pleaser when it comes to Bama. Just can't wait until the doubters get shut up once and for all.
              Lmao!

              Povetkin is one scary SOB from his last 3 fights, especially since he laid them ALL flat in their backs. I'd hate to face him if I was undefeated...

              I don't blame Wilder for claiming Povetkin is on roids, I'd be terrified

              It'll be an awesome match, but the way Molina made Wilder wobble... is a bad sign. Second Povetkin sees someone wobble, he'll knock them down quickly. With much more power, speed, and accuracy unlike Bumlina

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                #57
                Many of you wonder why Wlad clinched the hell out of Povetkin? He knew what Povetkin was capable of.. he didn't want to take any chances.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
                  Many of you wonder why Wlad clinched the hell out of Povetkin? He knew what Povetkin was capable of.. he didn't want to take any chances.
                  What was he capable of? Going into the Wlad fight he had 25 wins with 18 KOs. That's not exactly Tysonesque.

                  Povetkin has average power for a HW. He's not terribly large for a modern heavyweight and has average reach, maybe even slightly below average.

                  Wlad was a clincher for a while before the Povetkin fight. He heavy clinches in all his fights. The reason the Povetkin fight was exceptionally clinchy is because Sasha was reduced to charging into Wlad with his head. The only reasonable response to such a tactic is to wrap up.

                  Povetkin is a good fighter but insanely overrated on here IMHO. He was losing that Takam fight before the knockout. Wilder will gain nothing by beating him..

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
                    Lmao!

                    Povetkin is one scary SOB from his last 3 fights, especially since he laid them ALL flat in their backs. I'd hate to face him if I was undefeated...

                    I don't blame Wilder for claiming Povetkin is on roids, I'd be terrified

                    It'll be an awesome match, but the way Molina made Wilder wobble... is a bad sign. Second Povetkin sees someone wobble, he'll knock them down quickly. With much more power, speed, and accuracy unlike Bumlina

                    Yeah I understand but I think it will be a whole different wilder them the one we saw against molina. It'll be a much better version of him when he fought stiverne and that wilder is
                    Going to be scary. He will be able to
                    Keep distance on povetkin and I just think he will be able to get it done.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Bronzebomber
                      Yeah I understand but I think it will be a whole different wilder them the one we saw against molina. It'll be a much better version of him when he fought stiverne and that wilder is
                      Going to be scary. He will be able to
                      Keep distance on povetkin and I just think he will be able to get it done.
                      Povetkin was getting eaten up by Rahman's slow-motion jab. Wlad was just pelting him with jabs, I felt bad for him. Wilder will jab him into next week

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