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  • Bronzebomber
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    #41
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    I love how so many people are doubting him against povetkin well you will be wrong again just like you were about stiverne and how he can't box more then 4 round and has no Chin. Watch the molina hit in SLOW MOTION! He got rocked and could of been knocked out!? You must be kidding yourself. Wilder will beat povetkin whenever they fight. Yeah he had a sloppy match but who cares he got the win in front of his crowd. You think the crowd came there to see a first round knockout? Wilder is a crowd pleaser when it comes to Bama. Just can't wait until the doubters get shut up once and for all.

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    • KO'er
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      #42
      Wilder-Joshua would be a hell of a fight. If it happens 18-24 months from now I think Joshua would win. Not that I would pick against Joshua if it happened now, but IMO that's when the fight should happen.

      Of course, Wilder will still need to hold the belt in 18-24 months for Joshua to challenge him for a world title then.

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      • yoz
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bronzebomber
        I love how so many people are doubting him against povetkin well you will be wrong again just like you were about stiverne and how he can't box more then 4 round and has no Chin. Watch the molina hit in SLOW MOTION! He got rocked and could of been knocked out!? You must be kidding yourself. Wilder will beat povetkin whenever they fight. Yeah he had a sloppy match but who cares he got the win in front of his crowd. You think the crowd came there to see a first round knockout? Wilder is a crowd pleaser when it comes to Bama. Just can't wait until the doubters get shut up once and for all.

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        • MrRolltide91
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          #44
          this would be a great fight

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          • BWC
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            #45
            Originally posted by Salim_Shady
            Olympic gold medal agrees, however I reckon Joshua hits harder than Wilder. That Stiverne who was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis post fight would get murdered by AJ as he spends way too much time against the ropes or covering up.
            Joshua's gold medal is a complete fraud though as he clearly lost at least two matches in London. Many think he lost all four. He's a bronze medalist at best.

            We have no idea how good Joshua is. His opponents have been laughably bad. A 48 year old Matt Skelton? He certainly seems to have talent, but heck I could look world class working a heavy bag in the ring. Need to see him against real.comp..

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            • SalimShady1212
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              #46
              Originally posted by BWC
              Joshua's gold medal is a complete fraud though as he clearly lost at least two matches in London. Many think he lost all four. He's a bronze medalist at best.

              We have no idea how good Joshua is. His opponents have been laughably bad. A 48 year old Matt Skelton? He certainly seems to have talent, but heck I could look world class working a heavy bag in the ring. Need to see him against real.comp..
              Lol...just testing how many people actually watched it, I have no idea how they gave him the decision vs "Savon"? (In the final), however the way Joshua has looked has got me very impressed and you can't tell me besides Stiverne that wilder's resume is much better. I rate AJ but my biggest concern is his cardio beyond 6 rounds. Big men usually gas especially when they're pretty much all muscle.

              And as someone with quite a few amateur bouts, looking good even against a punchbag is not always easy to do when all someone wants to do is survive. For example, Eric Molina has been stopped in one twice and Wilder made him look like a top contender. He wasn't ranked in the WBC top 10 till wilder announced him as an opponent.
              Last edited by SalimShady1212; 06-18-2015, 10:10 AM.

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              • BWC
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                #47
                Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                Lol...just testing how many people actually watched it, I have no idea how they gave him the decision vs "Savon"? (In the final), however the way Joshua has looked has got me very impressed and you can't tell me besides Stiverne that wilder's resume is much better. I rate AJ but my biggest concern is his cardio beyond 6 rounds. Big men usually gas especially when they're pretty much all muscle.

                And as someone with quite a few amateur bouts, looking good even against a punchbag is not always easy to do when all someone wants to do is survive. For example, Eric Molina has been stopped in one twice and Wilder made him look like a top contender. He wasn't ranked in the WBC top 10 till wilder announced him as an opponent.
                He lost to both Savon and Cammarelle in the Gold Medal match. He made up 3 points in the last round against Cammarelle apparently (LMAO).

                Molina is miles ahead of anyone Joshua has faced as a pro. It's not even close. People dog Molina but the guy is ranked 44th in the world. Not exactly a world beater but Kevin Johnson, the supposed step up for AJ is ranked 65th haha.

                I agree that Joshua does seem to have talent but the guys he fights are sooooo insanely overmatched it's impossible to say anything about Joshua from those fights. Both Wilder and Joshua have sparred Wlad and I'll bet getting the hands on those tapes would tell us a lot more than beating up on Jason Gavern..

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                • Tom Cruise
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BWC
                  Joshua's gold medal is a complete fraud though as he clearly lost at least two matches in London. Many think he lost all four. He's a bronze medalist at best.

                  We have no idea how good Joshua is. His opponents have been laughably bad. A 48 year old Matt Skelton? He certainly seems to have talent, but heck I could look world class working a heavy bag in the ring. Need to see him against real.comp..
                  Anyone who thought he lost all four didnt watch the fights. He lost the first fight to Savon who was robbed (a very good fighter currently looking pretty good in the WSB), and his bout in the final with Roberto Cammerelle (reigning olympic champion who AJ had already beat in the World Championships) could have gone either way. The others he clearly won.

                  However you cut it Joshua was fighting and competing with the best Amateurs in the world with only a few years boxing experience and a handful of fights.

                  As a pro he looks good but has lots to prove and lots to improve. Currently I think Wilder beats him. His mobility would be a nightmare for Joshua imo.

                  Maybe after a few real challenges that changes...

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                  • BodiesInFlight
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BWC
                    He lost to both Savon and Cammarelle in the Gold Medal match. He made up 3 points in the last round against Cammarelle apparently (LMAO).

                    Molina is miles ahead of anyone Joshua has faced as a pro. It's not even close. People dog Molina but the guy is ranked 44th in the world. Not exactly a world beater but Kevin Johnson, the supposed step up for AJ is ranked 65th haha.

                    I agree that Joshua does seem to have talent but the guys he fights are sooooo insanely overmatched it's impossible to say anything about Joshua from those fights. Both Wilder and Joshua have sparred Wlad and I'll bet getting the hands on those tapes would tell us a lot more than beating up on Jason Gavern..
                    Why does Joshua have to step up and prove himself to you but you're more than happy praising Wilder for fighting a bum in Molina. Ohh he's ranked 45th best heavyweight in the world. Woop-de-do.

                    Joshua is still starting out, only had 13 fights and you're comparing him to a 29 year old belt holder who has based his entire career on beating cans.

                    Joshua will likely step up the comp later this year or in 2016, yet Wilder who is more seasoned and supposed to be a champ is still fighting no hopers.

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                    • BWC
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                      Anyone who thought he lost all four didnt watch the fights. He lost the first fight to Savon who was robbed (a very good fighter currently looking pretty good in the WSB), and his bout in the final with Roberto Cammerelle (reigning olympic champion who AJ had already beat in the World Championships) could have gone either way. The others he clearly won.

                      However you cut it Joshua was fighting and competing with the best Amateurs in the world with only a few years boxing experience and a handful of fights.

                      As a pro he looks good but has lots to prove and lots to improve. Currently I think Wilder beats him. His mobility would be a nightmare for Joshua imo.

                      Maybe after a few real challenges that changes...
                      Well Wilder won bronze after boxing for like a year and a half. Both are pretty impressive talents.

                      I hate how Joshua is adding so much bulk. It's killing his mobility and he looks so stiff out there now. Wilder would run circles around him right now..

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