Should Deontay Wilder be Allowed to Fight with Steel Pins in His Hand?

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  • !! Shawn
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    #51
    Originally posted by Tom Cruise
    Yes he should be banned, along with other devastating metal fisted punchers such as Joe Calzaghe
    And Pauli Malignagi.

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      #52
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      For those arguing that steel pins in the hand don't give one an advantage, consider this: Before Wilder had pins implanted in his hand, he broke it. Rather than just set the hand and cast it, he had steel pins implanted first. Why? To reinforce the metacarpal bones that he broke, so that they would be less likely to break again when he punched an opponent. A bridge's pillars are made of concrete and reinforced with steel, so the bridge doesn't collapse under weight. I didn't say the implants give Deontay power, I suggested that they allow him to punch harder without fear of re-breaking the bones, because the steel provides reinforcement. How hard is that to understand?
      Pins are designed for healing, not reinforcement. Its recommended they be removed usually. I know this because my uncle runs a company that manufactures these little pins and plates.

      Boxers usually leave them in because, they have to earn money, and the downtime in training of either not getting them put in, and or getting them removed is a hinderance to their career, so they usually take the risk and leave them in.

      The repaired bone is usually weaker than if it was naturally healed though, because.... it now has a hole in it from the screw/pin.

      When they rebreak it, and bend the screws/pins (which are designed to bend, instead of break, or be rigid enough to shear through the bone, because that would be quite catastrophic) the usually end up with a hand that is even worse, and will be even weaker after being repaired again.

      They are made to be just strong enough to hold the bone together while it heals while allowing the patient to resume normal life activities while it heals.

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        #53
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        Pins are designed for healing, not reinforcement. Its recommended they be removed usually. I know this because my uncle runs a company that manufactures these little pins and plates.

        Boxers usually leave them in because, they have to earn money, and the downtime in training of either not getting them put in, and or getting them removed is a hinderance to their career, so they usually take the risk and leave them in.

        The repaired bone is usually weaker than if it was naturally healed though, because.... it now has a hole in it from the screw/pin.

        When they rebreak it, and bend the screws/pins (which are designed to bend, instead of break, or be rigid enough to shear through the bone, because that would be quite catastrophic) the usually end up with a hand that is even worse, and will be even weaker after being repaired again.

        They are made to be just strong enough to hold the bone together while it heals while allowing the patient to resume normal life activities while it heals.
        Thanks for the insight, bro. Given what you said, I find it to be rather an anomaly that Wider is able to punch so hard with that at least twice broken and repaired hand.

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          #54
          Pins in your hand make it weaker, not stronger. It's the reason he re-broke his hand.

          It's not an advantage, it's a clear disadvantage.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
            Pins in your hand make it weaker, not stronger. It's the reason he re-broke his hand.

            It's not an advantage, it's a clear disadvantage.
            His hand didn't have pins in it the first time he broke it. If he hadn't had pins implanted after the break, do you think his hand would be stronger or weaker?
            Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 06-29-2015, 11:35 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              His hand didn't have pins in it the first time he broke it. If he hadn't had pins implanted after the break, do you think his hand would be stronger or weaker?
              I broke my hand twice boxing, it's substantially weaker. I never had pins, and I think my hand is stronger than if it would have pins.

              I can't imagine pins in your hands making it stronger. Usually with a break, your bones calcify stronger, but then again, his hands are taking a beating in the sport he's in.

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                #57
                This ****** thread is still here?

                To think that Wilder has 3 lbs of stainless in his hand and that's why he has a bunch of KOs.

                The tardedness is real.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by lefthook2daliva
                  This ****** thread is still here?

                  To think that Wilder has 3 lbs of stainless in his hand and that's why he has a bunch of KOs.

                  The tardedness is real.
                  And yet... here YOU are, still.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                    I broke my hand twice boxing, it's substantially weaker. I never had pins, and I think my hand is stronger than if it would have pins.

                    I can't imagine pins in your hands making it stronger. Usually with a break, your bones calcify stronger, but then again, his hands are taking a beating in the sport he's in.
                    Right on. In any event, I wouldn't want to experience the hell that he likely will when he's retired. Hand will likely be a ball of mush.

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                    • Motofan
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                      #60
                      Sure. They check this stuff out. I'm sure its been mentioned in the 6 pages of this thread up to this point, but MAB had a steel plate in his head and they let him fight.

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