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  • Bigg Rigg
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrrod02
    No.
    But there are constant changes to these sports in oder to try to make them more exciting. Football has constantly changed their rules to make it more fan friendly. So has basketball. Baseball just recently tried speeding up the pace of the game because they found that most young fans found it very boring.

    All sports understand that entertainment is the most important part of bringing in new fans. ($$$) So they adjust accordingly.
    That whole baseball is boring **** is coming from the African American community. No racist **** here but they are the only ppl saying baseball needs to change to attracted more African Americans. Why??? Hispanics, Asians and white Americans of all ethnicities love the game the way it is. But old school AA baseball legends see no more AA players dominating in baseball and blame it on the game. African Americans rather play football or basketball now in Days.

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      #42
      Originally posted by GOD-FR33
      Fans want excitement. You have to be defensively responsible and let your hands go at the same time. It's a simple formula, really. Look at Legends like Whitaker, Ali, SRL, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Chavez, Pacquiao, Barrera, Morales, etc. They were exciting to watch and they were good defenders as well. What happened on May 2nd, should change the way you watch/judge a fight. Let's take it back to the days where a fighter is penalized for excessive running, holding, and dirty tactics. You should have to fight to win a fight. You cannot take away a Champion's belt when they are coming forward and trying to make the fight. You used to have to take away a Champion's title. Judging now is a joke and the refs are as well. Floyd has come along and destroyed what little pride boxing had left with his antics and cowardly ways in the ring. His finale fight won't do 600K. WATCH! Fans are tired of him and aren't fooled by his pot-shotting, excessive holding, dirty tactics, and running anymore. Manny exposed him for what he truly is, a coward. He fights like a punk. It's hard to watch that nonsense.
      he's gonna do atleast a a milllion buys in his next fight. fans are tired of watching floyd mayweather and a lot of them say that they're not gonna buy/watch his next fight. but once they see that sho time promo all these people (including many people here on boxingscene) suffer from a severe case of amnesia. people start getting wet. they call up their cable providers and order that 59.99 HD PPV asap.

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      • Bigg Rigg
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        #43
        Originally posted by crazyboy867
        he's gonna do atleast a a milllion buys in his next fight. fans are tired of watching floyd mayweather and a lot of them say that they're not gonna buy/watch his next fight. but once they see that sho time promo all these people (including many people here on boxingscene) suffer from a severe case of amnesia. people start getting wet. they call up their cable providers and order that 59.99 HD PPV asap.
        Idk bro. He couldn't crack a million on showtime until he fought Canelo and Pac where he did 2 and 4 million. After seeing how boring the Pac fight was, idk who he fights and if fans really will care.

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          #44
          Originally posted by GOD-FR33
          Fans want excitement. You have to be defensively responsible and let your hands go at the same time. It's a simple formula, really. Look at Legends like Whitaker, Ali, SRL, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Chavez, Pacquiao, Barrera, Morales, etc. They were exciting to watch and they were good defenders as well. What happened on May 2nd, should change the way you watch/judge a fight. Let's take it back to the days where a fighter is penalized for excessive running, holding, and dirty tactics. You should have to fight to win a fight. You cannot take away a Champion's belt when they are coming forward and trying to make the fight. You used to have to take away a Champion's title. Judging now is a joke and the refs are as well. Floyd has come along and destroyed what little pride boxing had left with his antics and cowardly ways in the ring. His finale fight won't do 600K. WATCH! Fans are tired of him and aren't fooled by his pot-shotting, excessive holding, dirty tactics, and running anymore. Manny exposed him for what he truly is, a coward. He fights like a punk. It's hard to watch that nonsense.
          An utter nonsense. Stop crying.

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          • boxingfan1986
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            #45
            what is this mess of a thread. Klitschko exciting? Lets his fists do the talking? The guy clinches for 12 fackin rounds.

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              #46
              Originally posted by dc3383
              It's better to be boring and win than exciting and lose. Those who complain about somebody being boring is usually a guy who lost to a boring fighter.
              Well said. And it takes a disciplined, tough minded fighter to block out the criticism.

              The weak minded fall into that trap and end up brain damaged and forgotten. Bradley put his heart on the line against Ruslan and what did he get?

              1. They booed him post fight
              2. They harrassed his social media
              3. He's showing early effects of brain damage
              4. He is no longer a top p4p fighter
              5. His career is on the line in 2 weeks

              In the flip side, Floyd and B-Hop stick to what they do best and are still healthy, financially stable and hall of famers.

              Look at the Cubans. Gamboa got knocked out and forgotten. Lara is still working and made $1 million in each of his last 2 Fights.

              If you have the skills and abilities to win without taking punishment, your best bet is to use it and have a long sustained career.

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              • MRCHOKEaMF
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                #47
                Originally posted by GOD-FR33
                Fans want excitement. You have to be defensively responsible and let your hands go at the same time. It's a simple formula, really. Look at Legends like Whitaker, Ali, SRL, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Chavez, Pacquiao, Barrera, Morales, etc. They were exciting to watch and they were good defenders as well. What happened on May 2nd, should change the way you watch/judge a fight. Let's take it back to the days where a fighter is penalized for excessive running, holding, and dirty tactics. You should have to fight to win a fight. You cannot take away a Champion's belt when they are coming forward and trying to make the fight. You used to have to take away a Champion's title. Judging now is a joke and the refs are as well. Floyd has come along and destroyed what little pride boxing had left with his antics and cowardly ways in the ring. His finale fight won't do 600K. WATCH! Fans are tired of him and aren't fooled by his pot-shotting, excessive holding, dirty tactics, and running anymore. Manny exposed him for what he truly is, a coward. He fights like a punk. It's hard to watch that nonsense.
                You really consider Duran a "good defender"?.....Youre automatically crazy
                pac only landed in double digits TWO rounds...(and you think he should've been GIVEN rounds when he couldnt land. When is the last time floyd only sold 600k? He has the top 4or5 PPV'S ever. [COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"][COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]so that is not likely.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]If fans are so tired of him, why does he OUTSELL EVERY BOXER IN THE SPORT?[/COLOR] IS THERE A RULE AGAINST PUNCHING AN OPPONENT LEGALLY? BECAUSE THATS WHAT POTSHOTTING IS. Apparently boxing and using movement is running, really do your research on boxing, you dont have to stand still You are calling a person that has fought more champions in boxing than ANYONE ELSE IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING, A coward.........REALLY...REALLY, NAH REALLY. You dont understand BOXING. here I DESTROYED EVERYONE OF YOUR ARGUMENTS Stop crying

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                • -PBP-
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrrod02
                  No.
                  But there are constant changes to these sports in oder to try to make them more exciting. Football has constantly changed their rules to make it more fan friendly. So has basketball. Baseball just recently tried speeding up the pace of the game because they found that most young fans found it very boring.

                  All sports understand that entertainment is the most important part of bringing in new fans. ($$$) So they adjust accordingly.
                  But with contact sports, the rules are changing to make the game more safe. NFL ball is a pass happy finesse league now and you can barely lay your hands on the QB without getting penalized. You can destroy a defenseless receiver or crack back block anymore.

                  Your ignoring that aspect of it. They are headed towards becoming a 2 hand touch league by 2025.

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                  • Sweet Jones
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                    That whole baseball is boring **** is coming from the African American community. No racist **** here but they are the only ppl saying baseball needs to change to attracted more African Americans. Why??? Hispanics, Asians and white Americans of all ethnicities love the game the way it is. But old school AA baseball legends see no more AA players dominating in baseball and blame it on the game. African Americans rather play football or basketball now in Days.
                    This is dead wrong and beyond fugging ******.

                    You really think baseball made changes to the pace of the game because of Black folk complaining? That would mark the first time in American HISTORY that any American institution made a fundamental change (without bloody protest) to accommodate the whims of Black folk.

                    Participation in youth baseball is down all across the board, not just in Black communities, for a variety of reasons (scarcity of fields and participants, rising costs to participate, diversification of kids' interests, kids specializing in one sport at younger ages, etc). See this article for reference.

                    Come on, bruh. Blaming Black folk for some isht the Commissioner of MLB and tv networks want to happen is silly.

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                    • R_Walken
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                      #50
                      I'm sorry but this is the most ret@rded fu.cking logic I've read. At the end of the day winning is all that matters whether it's as boring as watching paint dry or edge of your seat excitement getting the W is what counts.

                      Its the reason why Tracy Mcgrady or Vince Carter won't be in the HOF, yeah they could dunk nice but they where losers who didn't win anything. I guess San Antonio should return their rings or New Jersey Devils should have their names erased from the cup because they were boring, like come on.

                      Sports is about the best going against the best that's it , if it's exciting its a bonus like holy sh.it people that think different give your head a shake

                      Having this train of thought is basically co-signing mismatches why should elite fighters ever fight elite fighters when they could beat down over matched journeymen.

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