Comments Thread For: Wilder Survives Early Scare, Stops Molina In Nine

[nacho daddy]

^^^ This.

Exactly. Solid post.

Just because the two best guys in the division handidly beat your ass don't make you a bum.



As a fan of Wladimir myself I'll say this to you, you have literally no grounds upon which to moan when Wlad has treated us to defences against guys like Mormeck, Pianeta and planned defences versus guys like Chisora. It is fans like you that give Klitschko supporters a bad name on this site.

Wilder was facing a weak opponent in his hometown in his homecoming, he gets a pass for this fight, now you 'F-off' as you say in your own words, and deal with it.

that is after the klit bros destroyed all the fighters in the HW division including the young up and comers

[Derranged]

The view that the main reason that Wilder looked good against Stiverne was due to Stiverne's poor physical condition rather than Wilder's quality is looking a little stronger after this performance.

The view that it was mainly Stiverne's poor condition that made Wilder look so good looks a bit stronger after this Molina fight. Molina was the softest of soft first title defences so Wilder should really have stopped him earlier and not experienced some of those difficulties. Having said that this was probably the sort of learning fight Wilder should have had before he ever fought for a title.

Stiverene was a slow, inactive (meaning not throwing many shots) and limited fighter to begin with. The Arreola fights showed that he has tremendous power because Arreola has proven to have good chin. But Arreola's a plodder who's easy to hit and pretty much stands right in front of you. Had Stiverne not been "sick" or whatever he was, I'm not so sure the fight with Wilder would have been much different.

[Humean]

The atmosphere in that arena was electric last night. Those people, very few of which were actual fight fans. Were genuinely excited and thought they were watching boxing at its highest level.

Which leads me to my point. Yes, Deontay looked like ****. Yes, he's a paper champ. And yes, he was tested by a guy that probably shouldn't have even been approved by the commission. But from what I saw last night, Deontay is very good for boxing, which is why I don't understand all the hate for him on this site. Yes, he's been protected and spoon fed. Yes, he was basically handed a belt. But, he's a big punching American heavyweight that's flawed, and makes exciting fights. Isn't that what everyone wants?

I'd have thought Americans would want a champion who wasn't so flawed. I suppose I agree that he is good for American boxing but not sure if that means he is good for boxing in general, he will be if he is really good but there have to be many doubts about him right now.

The atmosphere was pretty good for American standards, this is what happens when you let a fighter fight at home rather than in an arena in some other part of the country where he has almost no fans.

[NEELZ]

Povetkin is no sure thing to beat Wilder. I like Wilder. He is the long lean athletic type of heavyweight, rather than the standard overweight, slow-footed ****er, like Povetkin.

Klischko controlled Povetkin with a reach advantage and his well-educated clinching technique. I like the balanced posters who try to see the good and the bad in fighters, rather than the all negative posters which predominate. Wilder is a good fighter that could be beaten but also is still in the growth phase.

Strong stiff jab. power in both hands. Maybe the shots look wild but if they hit the button, possibly they aren't as wild as they appear. If they make a Wilder-Povetkin fight, I think Wilder has a very good shot in that one. I enjoyed the Saturday night show, good action fight.

[Derranged]

Povetkin is no sure thing to beat Wilder. I like Wilder. He is the long lean athletic type of heavyweight, rather than the standard overweight, slow-footed ****er, like Povetkin.

Klischko controlled Povetkin with a reach advantage and his well-educated clinching technique. I like the balanced posters who try to see the good and the bad in fighters, rather than the all negative posters which predominate. Wilder is a good fighter that could be beaten but also is still in the growth phase.

Strong stiff jab. power in both hands. Maybe the shots look wild but if they hit the button, possibly they aren't as wild as they appear. If they make a Wilder-Povetkin fight, I think Wilder has a very good shot in that one. I enjoyed the Saturday night show, good action fight.

If Povetkin thinks that running head first into Wilder's chest and hoping to land a looping bomb on the inside will win, like he tried against Wladimir, then he's nuts. Wlad looked awful in that fight but Povetkin's strategy was shit. Wlad has definitely declined and a younger version of him would have knocked him out.

[mezoomozaa]

Typical hypejob

[BostonGuy]

I just rewatched the fight this morning and I thought Wilder looked decent but far from impressive. And I don't think he's ready for Povetkin for his next fight.

The Good

Wilder's boxing and defense are OK. He's still somewhat limited in his punch selection relying on the right hand most of the time but he landed the left hook often last night.

Wilder got some good rounds in last night against an opponent who was determined and not deterred by his power. Wilder weathered some offensive storms by Molina and has proved he can take a punch or two.

Wilder has good stamina and paces himself well in a fight. He's economical with his punches, doesn't waste energy with unnecessary movement and is in tremendous physical condition. He's very athletic.

The Bad

Wilder can sometimes be very one dimensional. He replies too much on the jab and right hand to the head and neglects going to the body and throwing different combinations. He doesn't vary his offense up enough.

What is up with his jab? He throws it well sometimes but a lot of the time, he throws a 'side arm' jab from his mid section instead of throwing a straight jab right down the pipe.

That said, I think he's still improving and is on the cusp of stardom. If he stays active fighting 4 times a year as his manager stated, he's gonna attract boxing fans and get noticed by the sports world.

[mezoomozaa]

If I was allowed to bet, I would bet all whatever I own on Povetkin K.Oing Wilder.

[Humean]

I just rewatched the fight this morning and I thought Wilder looked decent but far from impressive. And I don't think he's ready for Povetkin for his next fight.

The Good

Wilder's boxing and defense are OK. He's still somewhat limited in his punch selection relying on the right hand most of the time but he landed the left hook often last night.

Wilder got some good rounds in last night against an opponent who was determined and not deterred by his power. Wilder weathered some offensive storms by Molina and has proved he can take a punch or two.

Wilder has good stamina and paces himself well in a fight. He's economical with his punches, doesn't waste energy with unnecessary movement and is in tremendous physical condition. He's very athletic.

The Bad

Wilder can sometimes be very one dimensional. He replies too much on the jab and right hand to the head and neglects going to the body and throwing different combinations. He doesn't vary his offense up enough.

What is up with his jab? He throws it well sometimes but a lot of the time, he throws a 'side arm' jab from his mid section instead of throwing a straight jab right down the pipe.

That said, I think he's still improving and is on the cusp of stardom. If he stays active fighting 4 times a year as his manager stated, he's gonna attract boxing fans and get noticed by the sports world.

It is not just the technique with the jab that goes wrong but all of his punches, one second Wilder's technique is good, the next it is truly awful. There are times that spectators in row z are in danger of being chin checked.

[fastjabs2015]

Wilder was poor but he got the W. He has power but he is raw - that said he has great physical gifts and can be turned into a very effective fighter.