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  • DreamerUSA
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    #21
    Originally posted by SilverMiles
    I don't believe Naseem took MAB as his biggest test. Hindsight is 20/20 but at that time MAB was considered a good fighter but not a future ATG. He had lost to both Morales and Junior Jones and was coming up in weight.

    And I can't say Morales, Marquez, or MAB would handle Naseem with ease when none of them wanted to fight him in his prime. Especially Marquez who said he wasn't ready for the fight.

    And even against a past prime Naseem, MAB barely got the job done.

    As for the question I pick Naseem over everyone except Mares and Loma.
    Naz was in his prime. The dude was what, 28 when he fought MAB.He had'nt been in any real massive wars. Certainly nothing that would of had him shot when he fought Barrera. I had'nt seen the fight in years but another thread here a couple days ago got me interested so I went and watched it a couple times on Youtube. That fight was semi competitive for 5 rounds, but after that it was pretty much all MAB. It was a 9-3 fight or maybe 8-4 if you give him one of the early close rounds. It was straight easy work for Barrera.

    You keep hearing this crap that Naz was past it, but watch the fight and you will see the problem with Naz in that fight was that Barrera neutralized his power, and anytime Naz thought about getting offensive he got countered beautifully and would eat hooks to the body. Barrera literally took everything away from Naz in that fight and gave him a boxing clinic. No version of Naz beats the Barrera that showed up that night.

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    • vorgaphe
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      #22
      Originally posted by DreamerUSA
      Naz was in his prime. The dude was what, 28 when he fought MAB.He had'nt been in any real massive wars. Certainly nothing that would of had him shot when he fought Barrera. I had'nt seen the fight in years but another thread here a couple days ago got me interested so I went and watched it a couple times on Youtube. That fight was semi competitive for 5 rounds, but after that it was pretty much all MAB. It was a 9-3 fight or maybe 8-4 if you give him one of the early close rounds. It was straight easy work for Barrera.

      You keep hearing this crap that Naz was past it, but watch the fight and you will see the problem with Naz in that fight was that Barrera neutralized his power, and anytime Naz thought about getting offensive he got countered beautifully and would eat hooks to the body. Barrera literally took everything away from Naz in that fight and gave him a boxing clinic. No version of Naz beats the Barrera that showed up that night.
      He was 100% out of his prime. Naz had huge weight and motivation issues at that point. I'm not saying he would have beaten MAB had it been a few years earlier, but that was not the best version of Naz in there, not by a long way.

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      • sugarsmosley
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        #23
        lomachenko would make him look like this again


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        • DreamerUSA
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          #24
          Originally posted by vorgaphe
          He was 100% out of his prime. Naz had huge weight and motivation issues at that point. I'm not saying he would have beaten MAB had it been a few years earlier, but that was not the best version of Naz in there, not by a long way.
          Well motivation in all honesty is nothing but an excuse. Yes he had problems making weight, but it really did'nt show in the fight. He was moving well and did'nt gas out. Again, his problem in the fight was what Barrera did to him.

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            #25
            I think he stops Russel, loses a UD to Loma. Walters would be fireworks and could go either way. Need to see more of Selby.

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            • SilverMiles
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              #26
              Originally posted by blakey
              lomachenko would make him look like this again


              It's so silly when people post pics like this. Me and you both know that Naseem pulled his head far back when dodging punches.

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              • SilverMiles
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                #27
                Originally posted by DreamerUSA
                Naz was in his prime. The dude was what, 28 when he fought MAB.He had'nt been in any real massive wars. Certainly nothing that would of had him shot when he fought Barrera. I had'nt seen the fight in years but another thread here a couple days ago got me interested so I went and watched it a couple times on Youtube. That fight was semi competitive for 5 rounds, but after that it was pretty much all MAB. It was a 9-3 fight or maybe 8-4 if you give him one of the early close rounds. It was straight easy work for Barrera.

                You keep hearing this crap that Naz was past it, but watch the fight and you will see the problem with Naz in that fight was that Barrera neutralized his power, and anytime Naz thought about getting offensive he got countered beautifully and would eat hooks to the body. Barrera literally took everything away from Naz in that fight and gave him a boxing clinic. No version of Naz beats the Barrera that showed up that night.
                It's seems very convenient that MAB, Morales, and Marquez turned the fight down but after seeing Naseem struggle with and get dropped by Augie Sanchez they grew brave.

                People should just face it MAB and Marquez didn't want it with an prime Naseem and MAB barely beat a past prime Naseem, close fight over exaggerate because of peoples dislike for Naseem.

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                • DreamerUSA
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles
                  It's seems very convenient that MAB, Morales, and Marquez turned the fight down but after seeing Naseem struggle with and get dropped by Augie Sanchez they grew brave.

                  People should just face it MAB and Marquez didn't want it with an prime Naseem and MAB barely beat a past prime Naseem, close fight over exaggerate because of peoples dislike for Naseem.
                  I have nothing against Naz. Enjoyed watching him fight and loved his showmanship. That said. The fight was not even remotely close in any way shape or form. To say so is delusional.

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                    #29
                    Walters, Lomachenko and Selby, due to various reasons (size, power, skill) have a chance against Naz, although I'd favour Naz against all those guys but everyone else in the division gets hung out to dry. Are people seriously mentioning Russell? The guy has one top-ish level win and that too flatters him.

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