why is margarito cheating against cotto theory widely accepted? proof?

[Mr.Fantastic]

Exactly and they didn't fool Naazim Richardson. If Margarito used the wraps before Mosley it's very possible the commissioner missed it too. I don't think anyone's saying he's been using plaster since his first pro fight but there's a very strong case that he used it against Cotto and possibly before.

Strong case? Looks weak to be honest.

You want to know what's a strong case? Mosley cheating vs DLH on the second fight.

[Scott9945]

Exactly and they didn't fool Naazim Richardson. If Margarito used the wraps before Mosley it's very possible the commissioner missed it too. I don't think anyone's saying he's been using plaster since his first pro fight but there's a very strong case that he used it against Cotto and possibly before.

I have no problem with people being su****ious. What I object to is people saying it as fact, like Kellerman did.

[Lords]

Thought so. Let me give you a simple fact.

Did you know Margarito fought and beat Clottey and Martinez before Cotto?

Your shit has been debunked. Cotto fought Margarito's leftovers. Damn I bet that makes you feel even more angry doesn't it?

Oh, he beat Sergio 15 years ago when Sergio was in his 18th fight and still a pup? Thats great. He beat Clottey when Clottey dominated the first 4 rounds to only break his hand in the 5th or 6th (can't remember) hindering him from continued domination. And Clottey was a nobody too. Nice try though.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Oh, he beat Sergio 15 years ago when Sergio was in his 18th fight and still a pup? Thats great. He beat Clottey when Clottey dominated the first 4 rounds to only break his hand in the 5th or 6th (can't remember) hindering him from continued domination. And Clottey was a nobody too. Nice try though.

Break his hands. Sure!


Nice try? I've already exposed your hypocrite ass. I don't even have to try when you own your damn self.

[Lords]

Break his hands. Sure!


Nice try? I've already exposed your hypocrite ass. I don't even have to try when you own your damn self.

Research it yourself if you don't believe me. Hypocrite?

[TBear]

Listen guy, you don't get a 1-year suspension for loading your gloves with "plaster" or "bricks". You get a lifetime ban/suspension.

Marg got 1 year because it wasn't even plaster to begin with, it was some trace elements that need other elements combined to make a plaster-like substance. As mentioned earlier, those "elements" can be found in anything, even hand lotion.

"The options available to the California State Athletic Commission ranged from taking no action against Margarito and Capetillo to a fine, suspension, or revocation of their respective licenses (the maximum penalty under law). In the event of revocation, either man would be free to reapply after one year with no guarantee of reinstatement. An irrevocable permanent ban was not an available option."

[TBear]

The Facts

Margarito’s hands were wrapped in his dressing room prior to the Mosley fight by his longtime trainer, Javier Capetillo. The task began under the supervision of inspector Che Guevara with Naazim Richardson (Mosley’s trainer) looking on.

Before a big fight, Richardson usually objects to the manner in which an opponent’s hands are being taped if for no other reason than to upset the opposing fighter. Here, he lodged numerous objections to the taping of Margarito’s right hand. Several more inspectors, including chief inspector Dean Lohuis, came into the dressing room. Richardson’s objections were overruled.

Then Capetillo began taping Margarito’s left hand, and Richardson asked if he could physically inspect the knuckle pad. Lohuis instructed Capetillo to pass the pad to Richardson. Naazim felt it and said that it seemed unusually hard. He then handed the pad to Lohuis, who agreed that it felt stiffer than is normally the case.

CSAC inspector David Pereda, who was in the room, later testified, “Naazim opened the gauze and pulled something out of it. He showed us what appeared to be an old gauze which had been used before and hardened from perhaps being sweaty and wet many times.”

Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito’s attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, “Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence [XRF] spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris. These three elements are also found in substances other than plaster. Oxygen is not detectable by XRF.”

California rules allow for the use of gauze and surgical adhesive tape when wrapping a fighter’s hands; nothing else. The application of water or any other liquid to the gauze or tape is prohibited.

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[LADIV]

Legacy? What legacy? His career revolves around beating Cotto, and thats it. Dude is one of the most overrated boxers in history and doesn't even contain a prime run on his resume.

My thing is, how do you load up your gloves for "only" Mosley but not load up your gloves for the biggest fight of your career against a prime undefeated Cotto? Makes zero sense. Him and his team are cowards for trying to cheat, plane and simple.

didnt nazeem bust that lame f uck you have in your avatar.....illegal wraps the irony....

[twrx]

so it was a used gauze i wonder if he or his trainer like many top athletes have a superstition or ritual And used the gauze he beat cotto with hence the pink in the knuckle which matches one in both pics .

[Lords]

didnt nazeem bust that lame f uck you have in your avatar.....illegal wraps the irony....

Actually Tito's wraps are legal in most states. If it was illegal don't you think he would have been suspended?