Official: Thurman VS Collazo PBConESPN Pre/Post fight thread

[John Locke]

My god that was a vicious shot. Keith will be pissing blood for a few days lol.

That wasn't a short hook on the inside with his lead hand, it was his stronger hand and he sat down on the punch, he couldn't have placed it any better either. That would have knocked many fighters down and out.

[Humean]

The fight proved to be more competitive than many thought, maybe a younger Collazo would have tried to continue but this is what happens when fighters get old, they are not willing (or able) to go that extra mile to win a fight. I like watching Thurman fight and he is damn good in many ways but he does do too much running, I just don't think he is very good defensively unless he is using his feet and therefore he uses a lot of movement. I think his sloppy hand placement and how open he usually leaves himself when he punches will get him badly hurt against an elite fighter with a punch.

[John Locke]

The fight proved to be more competitive than many thought, maybe a younger Collazo would have tried to continue but this is what happens when fighters get old, they are not willing (or able) to go that extra mile to win a fight. I like watching Thurman fight and he is damn good in many ways but he does do too much running, I just don't think he is very good defensively unless he is using his feet and therefore he uses a lot of movement. I think his sloppy hand placement and how open he usually leaves himself when he punches will get him badly hurt against an elite fighter with a punch.

He uses his feet whenever somebody applies pressure and gets in close, Keith can't fight in the pocket so he has to keep his distance and fight either at mid range or on the outside.

[Humean]

He uses his feet whenever somebody applies pressure and gets in close, Keith can't fight in the pocket so he has to keep his distance and fight either at mid range or on the outside.

Sure but he doesn't look confident that he can defend without moving his feet, he is going to really tire himself out against better pressure fighters unless he develops his defence, and/or dare I say start clinching, especially as he ages.

[John Locke]

Sure but he doesn't look confident that he can defend without moving his feet, he is going to really tire himself out against better pressure fighters unless he develops his defence, and/or dare I say start clinching, especially as he ages.

He's already said clinching is a last resort, you rarely see him clinch. I'd like it to stay that way tbh, clinching shouldn't be encouraged, you can do it when you're hurt or need to catch your breath, but not everytime somebody gets close to you.

Honestly other than the body shot, I don't think he looked uncomfortable at any stage last night, I mean he wasn't at his best, but he wasn't really troubled either. He started picking up the pace in round 6 and especially 7, he was really starting to beat Collazo up.

[Humean]

He's already said clinching is a last resort, you rarely see him clinch. I'd like it to stay that way tbh, clinching shouldn't be encouraged, you can do it when you're hurt or need to catch your breath, but not everytime somebody gets close to you.

Honestly other than the body shot, I don't think he looked uncomfortable at any stage last night, I mean he wasn't at his best, but he wasn't really troubled either. He started picking up the pace in round 6 and especially 7, he was really starting to beat Collazo up.

I just think there is a certain inefficiency to the way he fights. If he was to fight Porter he'd have to clinch as Porter will fall right on top of him

Yeah he won clear enough but he should have been more dominant, he is being highly hyped so he didn't quite match the high expectations even though it was overall a pretty good performance.

[Tom Cruise]

I just think there is a certain inefficiency to the way he fights. If he was to fight Porter he'd have to clinch as Porter will fall right on top of him

Yeah he won clear enough but he should have been more dominant, he is being highly hyped so he didn't quite match the high expectations even though it was overall a pretty good performance.

He is lacking ring generalmanship. He doesnt control his opponents well enough in my opinion. If he could really develop a consistent jab and learn to control his opponents movements better I think we would see a much better fighter.

As it is he is still very good. He has all the natural tools

[John Locke]

I just think there is a certain inefficiency to the way he fights. If he was to fight Porter he'd have to clinch as Porter will fall right on top of him

Yeah he won clear enough but he should have been more dominant, he is being highly hyped so he didn't quite match the high expectations even though it was overall a pretty good performance.

Fair comment.

I'd like to see that Porter fight next to see how deals with the pressure. I got him beating Porter in an 8-4 type of fight, with Porter outworking him in some rounds. Although Porter's a better fighter than Collazo, he's not as crafty and more reckless, Thurman could land big on him.

It's a great fight though, I rate Porter higher than most people on here. Amazing how everyone turned on him after he lost to Brook, who's another quality fighter.

[Greed.]

Brook should be begging Hearn to send him over to the states to fight Thurman. I was very confident in Brook winning that fight before this but even more so now.