Comments Thread For: Scully: You Saw Cotto's Response on Fighting Golovkin

[Jewish-Reptile]

So in your world, boxers don't have to fight the best and give the fans the best fights possible. As long as they make the top dollars, that is all that matters. So why should the fans support these slimy cowards? Why should the fans spend their hard earned dollars so that these scum fighters can live the life of millionaires? Why shouldn't the fans tell them to simply **** off and not buy the PPV?

Answer... because of ****** fools like yourself who are willing to throw their money in the toilet to watch less quality than you should be getting. I guess you are the kind of person who would be happy with paying the price of a bottle of fine French wine for screw top plonk. You get what you deserve and this is why boxing is a fringe sport that appeals to the lowest class of sports fan.

Best fights lmao, GGG comes to fight way heavier than Cotto ever did, also he knocks out middle weights for fun, Cotto is not a middle weight, don't believe me ? Ask him yourself.

GGG won't move up because he wants to get paid, Cotto also enjoys getting paid. Have you ever had a job ? It's really simple, the easier the work and the higher pay, generally determine what you do for a living. I can not explain it in any simpler terms, I am not a kindergarten tutor. You should have paid more attention to your homework than the lingerie section of your momma's catalogue.

If GGG cared about the best fights he would move up and challenge Ward, instead you and his fans want Ward to move up and Kovalev, as you're all terrified Ward defeats GGG and his junior middle weight stoppage bubble will be burst, personally I don't understand you guys, you want GGG to face a blown up JMW so he can easily despatch him and become a ppv entity ? And you accuse me of throwing money at the trash can ? Crazy. How about wanting to see him fight a competitive fight against a guy his own weight fight night, no ?

Every boxing fan wants to see GGG challenged bar his own fans, instead they are happy for him to target two JMW's so they can proudly declare him middleweight champion of the world, wake me up when GGG is campaigning at 168, or a credible 160 opponent is in the ring opposite him.

[doninlouisiana]

I share the exact same thoughts as Scully.

I see no shame in Cotto not taking the GGG fight as he's no where near the true Middleweight size that is required to face GGG.

Also seeing a Canelo fight with Cotto just has an awesome vibe to it. Another Mexico vs Puerto Rico matchup that will provide true fireworks. The young blood vs the old warrior. Has a great ring to it and it's still winnable by Cotto.

Now, I don't think Cotto is scared of GGG on a personal level. If Cotto was a true 160lb fighter, I have no doubt he would of faced GGG just as he faced Margarito when nobody wanted to. Cotto is a warrior. But this is the issue of size mattering, especially when GGG is a monster of 160lb fighter and Cotto doesn't even weigh more than 155lbs on his weigh-ins.... It's just a mismatch of size and Cotto is smart in that respect.

It's very simple, if Cotto doesn't want to defend his 160 lb title against 160 lb MW's then he should drop the title, and go get a 154 title and campaign there.

[oc9979]

So in your world, boxers don't have to fight the best and give the fans the best fights possible. As long as they make the top dollars, that is all that matters. So why should the fans support these slimy cowards? Why should the fans spend their hard earned dollars so that these scum fighters can live the life of millionaires? Why shouldn't the fans tell them to simply **** off and not buy the PPV?

Answer... because of ****** fools like yourself who are willing to throw their money in the toilet to watch less quality than you should be getting. I guess you are the kind of person who would be happy with paying the price of a bottle of fine French wine for screw top plonk. You get what you deserve and this is why boxing is a fringe sport that appeals to the lowest class of sports fan.

Think about it. Just because you spent your money in boxing does not give you any right to mandated who a fighting should fight. I bet that you do not allow someone whos not your boss to tell you how to do your job. Cotto's job is to maximize his income.
Why I don't hear anything about Rigo. No one wants to fight him but he is the best.

[Wizardsh]

Think about it. Just because you spent your money in boxing does not give you any right to mandated who a fighting should fight. I bet that you do not allow someone whos not your boss to tell you how to do your job. Cotto's job is to maximize his income.
Why I don't hear anything about Rigo. No one wants to fight him but he is the best.

Please shut up what you said doesn't apply to boxing. People want the best to fight the best and sometimes you make money sometimes not so much. Fans pay these these guys and lot of boxers seem to forget we make them rich. You sound like a poosay groupie

[Jewish-Reptile]

It's very simple, if Cotto doesn't want to defend his 160 lb title against 160 lb MW's then he should drop the title, and go get a 154 title and campaign there.

This is what will happen if he does not retire after Canelo. Lets wait and see who wins and what becomes of the WBC belt, if GGG and his handlers keep pushing they may get whst they would like you to believe they want, the WBC belt, only it'll be vacant and we'll be watching GGG vs Heiland when we could be watching a competitive fight with Golovkin in like a super middle weight title holder.

[Joe Beamish]

Best fights lmao, GGG comes to fight way heavier than Cotto ever did, also he knocks out middle weights for fun, Cotto is not a middle weight, don't believe me ? Ask him yourself.

GGG won't move up because he wants to get paid, Cotto also enjoys getting paid. Have you ever had a job ? It's really simple, the easier the work and the higher pay, generally determine what you do for a living. I can not explain it in any simpler terms, I am not a kindergarten tutor. You should have paid more attention to your homework than the lingerie section of your momma's catalogue.

If GGG cared about the best fights he would move up and challenge Ward, instead you and his fans want Ward to move up and Kovalev, as you're all terrified Ward defeats GGG and his junior middle weight stoppage bubble will be burst, personally I don't understand you guys, you want GGG to face a blown up JMW so he can easily despatch him and become a ppv entity ? And you accuse me of throwing money at the trash can ? Crazy. How about wanting to see him fight a competitive fight against a guy his own weight fight night, no ?

Every boxing fan wants to see GGG challenged bar his own fans, instead they are happy for him to target two JMW's so they can proudly declare him middleweight champion of the world, wake me up when GGG is campaigning at 168, or a credible 160 opponent is in the ring opposite him.

This is rich. Cotto just knocked out a full-on MW fighter who came into the ring HEAVIER than GGG ever has.

Cotto holds the MW "lineal" title.
Cotto has defeated two real life middleweights

Size isn't an excuse anymore. Either hand over the belt to GGG (which WILL ABSOLUTELY happen sooner or later, one way or the other) or gee whiz, actually fight the guy!

Cotto wants to fight SOME middleweights but not OTHERS. That's why he sometimes says "I'm not a middleweight."

If he wants to absorb the total dishonor of ducking the fighter whom everyone believes is the best in the division in which Cotto holds the belt, and HANDING OVER HIS BELT WITHOUT A FIGHT, then he may do so.

[~AK49~]

I agree with you. However, Cotto has to vacate that belt. GGG and his trainer have already said that it is not Cotto they are after. It is realy the belt. All GGG wants is the belt and he deserves it. [Cotto knows that GGG would give him a severe beating. Cotto should get off the pot and give up the belt.

That's bull****. GGG has been wanting to fight cotto, mayweather and pacquiao for the longest while now. They finally dropped PAC from the convo after realizing how ridiculous it was.

Belt or not belt, they want to fight cotto. He' a marquee name, to help put GGG on the map. Best of all, he's much smaller.

What's GGG gonna do once he gets the belt? Continue fighting geale's and lee's? In that case, what's the point in unifying a ****ty division? When is he gonna nut up and face bigger competition?

[mofrekinfoe]

GGG isn't holding on to a belt in Wards division nor is he Ward's mandatory. Big difference.

Did you not read what I wrote? I said GGG has the same reaction! Not the same situation!

[Jewish-Reptile]

This is rich. Cotto just knocked out a full-on MW fighter who came into the ring HEAVIER than GGG ever has.

Cotto holds the MW "lineal" title.
Cotto has defeated two real life middleweights

Size isn't an excuse anymore. Either hand over the belt to GGG (which WILL ABSOLUTELY happen sooner or later, one way or the other) or gee whiz, actually fight the guy!

Cotto wants to fight SOME middleweights but not OTHERS. That's why he sometimes says "I'm not a middleweight."

If he wants to absorb the total dishonor of ducking the fighter whom everyone believes is the best in the division in which Cotto holds the belt, and HANDING OVER HIS BELT WITHOUT A FIGHT, then he may do so.

GGG fighting a fit healthy Geale is one thing, and Cotto facing a drained Geale with over 25 pounds of water weight is another.

Lets get facts straight, I ain't no Cotto cheerleader, I'm GGG fan, hell I'm an avid Klitschko supporter and have been watching GGG on undercards on the K2 promotions since way before he had his break out year. But I also consider myself a realist.

GGG ain't interested in unifying jack, he wants Cotto or Canelo assurances so he can break into a ppv berth, that's a fact. Why else would he stick around fighting Monroe's etc, if he wanted to challenge himself he would move up and face a 168 title holder, only he won't as his handlers want him to pursue Cotto vs Canelo winner for obvious reasons, so they can begin to earn big with him. It's a business move, everyone understands it. Only I don't care whether he faces these guys as I tire of his one sided beatings of JMW's, ok these two campaign at 155 and 157-9 but they aren't legitimate 160 guys, even if they were, GGG has been tearing through those guys without issue ! Move up already, forget about Canelita and Miguella, their cashing in and the latter is cashing out, the pair have made it abundantly clear they're not interested in facing GGG.

If GGG keeps pushing he's gonna get his WBC belt, but just no signature win, Cotto vs Canelo don't need no WBC belt on the line to sell it, it is the WBC that want their three percent from both camps cut of the pie. I really don't see the WBC falling soft on GGG or getting tough on either of those guys upon victory, I honestly think the winner vacates regardless, it really isn't worth waiting on, if either guy had been receptive to the idea then yeh f it, wait around for them, all the signals suggest otherwise though.

What does GGG bring to the table for Canelo to consider facing that someone like Lara or Kirkland don't bring ? Canelo can earn the same for facing these guys as he can for facing GGG, unfortunately GGG hasn't the fan base Cotto, PBF or Pac have, so it appears a non starter to begin with, why face technically a light heavy for the same money you can face an average JMW ? Tell me please, I'm begging you, that facing the best stuff just don't cut it for me though, this is the hurt business and it is governed by money. GGG needs to drop his promoters and get in bed with ROC or someone like Ryabinksy, look at Povetkin now, he's ranked no.2 in the world because his promoter put up the money to get the guy with the WBC silver belt in the ring with him as well as another couple of lofty ranked WBC contenders he subsequently dispatched by KO to rise through the rankings to target the one belt the champ don't have, upon enforcing mandatory on Wilder he is about to force these fights to happen, it wouldn't be happening without the money being out up for his opponents to face him.

GGG can collect all the belts he likes and pay as many sanctioning fees as he sees fit, yet the cold hard fact remains he is not going to be a ppv or elite fighter unless his promoters put the money up. Hearn was quoted only last week saying they still have not made Froch an offer, let alone an offer he can't refuse, simply because the money is not there. If they want to start earning big they need to speculate to accumulate, all this gamesmanship about trying to goad an elite boxer into the ring hasn't worked yet and ultimately will not. Mexican Style was obviously a marketing tool to get the attention of the ppv paying Mexican Canelo fanbase, still Canelo has refused to fold, theyre running out of tricks, what they gonna try next, cheese ?

[Barcham]

Think about it. Just because you spent your money in boxing does not give you any right to mandated who a fighting should fight. I bet that you do not allow someone whos not your boss to tell you how to do your job. Cotto's job is to maximize his income.
Why I don't hear anything about Rigo. No one wants to fight him but he is the best.

I have the right to spend the money I earn on quality product and to be smart enough not to spend it on crap. I will not spend it on crappy movies and I will not spend it on crappy PPV fights. I would rather give it to some homeless guy begging on the street who needs it a hell of a lot more than some millionaire fighter who is not interested in stepping up and earning his money by fighting the best opponent available or who uses catchweights to drain an opponent to gain an advantage.

That is my choice, make yours as suits what you wish to see. But if you pay to watch a shitty PPV, they you give up your right to complain about it. Many years ago I used to have season tickets to the Montreal Expos. After the strike when MLB screwed us out of a championship and the owners had a fire sale the following season, I gave up my season tickets - along with many other people. People did not like the way the team was being run and we made our statement. What happened? The team was sold to MLB and eventually move to Washington.

That is the power of the fan. Don't pay top dollar for low end product.