Prime B-Hop vs Kovalev?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • jas
    Voice of Reason
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Jul 2005
    • 22532
    • 936
    • 914
    • 1,059,614

    #31
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    I didn't bring any of Hopkins's losses up. In his prime, he wasn't so great that someone as good as Kovalev, who also would have been much bigger, wouldn't have a chance.
    Yea you did

    "Hopkins lost to lesser fighters"

    Comment

    • DreamerUSA
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Feb 2015
      • 2302
      • 171
      • 40
      • 32,933

      #32
      Originally posted by jas
      Yea you did

      "Hopkins lost to lesser fighters"
      He said had problems with lesser fighters, but I still want to know who since you can pretty much say his prime was from the RJR loss to when he lost to Taylor. He literally destroyed the middleweight division and was undisputed champion.

      Comment

      • bojangles1987
        bo jungle
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jul 2009
        • 41118
        • 1,326
        • 357
        • 63,028

        #33
        Originally posted by jas
        Yea you did

        "Hopkins lost to lesser fighters"
        Come on, Jas, how can you put something in quotes that anyone could easily go back a page and see is fake?

        Comment

        • Doctor_Tenma
          Monster
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 33313
          • 1,327
          • 1,249
          • 58,127

          #34
          Originally posted by DreamerUSA
          He said had problems with lesser fighters, but I still want to know who since you can pretty much say his prime was from the RJR loss to when he lost to Taylor. He literally destroyed the middleweight division and was undisputed champion.
          His prime ended with Joppy clearly, very clearly.

          Comment

          • boxingsupreme87
            Banned
            • Jun 2015
            • 536
            • 35
            • 23
            • 941

            #35
            BHOP all the way. To say otherwise tells me you are at odds with what a prime BHOP was able to do to these over hyped power punchers.

            Comment

            • DreamerUSA
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Feb 2015
              • 2302
              • 171
              • 40
              • 32,933

              #36
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              His prime ended with Joppy clearly, very clearly.
              Even if true, does'nt really change what I'm saying lol.

              Comment

              • soul_survivor
                LOL @ Ali-Holmes
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Jun 2013
                • 18949
                • 623
                • 473
                • 65,236

                #37
                Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                I've been watchin a lot of Bernard Hopkins lately and although I rate Kovalev highly; I believe a prime Hopkins would have beat him. What do you guys think?
                It's got to be Hopkins, who has never had a problem with his chin and at 50 showed that even Kovalev's world eating power couldn't finish him off. Bhop, even at 43-45, would have been quick enough, fit enough, strong enough and adaptable enough to tie Kovalev up, frustrate him late in the fight, pester him with sneaky shots. Kovalev would have gotten angry at first, then agitated, he would have tried to punch, then box, then punch again. None of that would have worked.

                There's a very slim chance Kovalev may win a decision but I highly doubt that.

                Comment

                • Doctor_Tenma
                  Monster
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 33313
                  • 1,327
                  • 1,249
                  • 58,127

                  #38
                  Originally posted by DreamerUSA
                  Even if true, does'nt really change what I'm saying lol.
                  I know, just saying.

                  Comment

                  • HEND
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 2072
                    • 60
                    • 53
                    • 8,758

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Luilun
                    I know you failed history with that peanut size brain Eastern Europeans were under Communist rule they were not allowed to compete in pro sports. Maybe if you were born before 1990 you would understand
                    Actually I'm a white European I just happened to be not biased and racist. I know it's hard to imagine but try it.
                    My country was under communist rule too.
                    You talked abot white Europeans. I know you failed history but not just the slavs are both European and white. Also if you try to downgrade the achievements of the past greats with your excuses you're downright disrespectful to this sport and you shouldn't watch it.

                    Comment

                    • Shpacman
                      Contender
                      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 300
                      • 17
                      • 41
                      • 6,883

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                      I've been watchin a lot of Bernard Hopkins lately and although I rate Kovalev highly; I believe a prime Hopkins would have beat him. What do you guys think?
                      Prime Hopkins never met a fighter with such a combination of power, size, technique and ability to control distance as Kovalev. Actually he had only one such opponent throughout his career besides Kovalev - Tarver. But Tarver wasn't so good on his feet, wasn't so good at controlling distance, didn't have such combinations as Kovalev. So we don't know anything how prime Hop dealed with big strong fast lightheavyweights.
                      Also remember that good big fighter beats good small fighter.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP