Comments Thread For: Roach Admits: I Hate Whoever Invented Catch-Weights!

[soul_survivor]

so let's discredit wins for Armstrong and Leonard?

[Rip Chudd]

[aboutfkntime]

Trainer Freddie Roach surprisingly admits that he's not a fan of catch-weight fights. The statement is surprising considering that two of Roach's biggest names, Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto, have demanded catch-weight stipulations from several of their opponents.

Cotto had catch-weight fights with Antonio Margarito (rematch), Sergio Martinez and Daniel Geale. He says a catch-weight stipulation will be in place for anyone who wants to face him for the middleweight title.
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This is only news to some.

The weight manipulation and timing have been obvious with Pacquiao.

[FeFist]

So he will do something he hates... because he is believes everyone else is doing the same thing.

It is nice to see he is a man of principles. I wonder what his approach is towards performance enhancing drugs.

[aboutfkntime]

i would classify that as a catchweight. yes, 147 is the welterweight limit, but neither guy was fighting at 141-147 in any of their recent fights. it was an agreed upon weight that neither guy had been fighting at.

I am not a fan of Pacquiao or Roach.....

But the 147 limit for that fight was stipulated by Hoya.

But yea, after weighing 145 two weeks before the fight, 145 at the weigh-in, and 145 on fight-night..... nobody should be giving Pac too much credit for that win.

Thats version of Hoya would not have beaten any of the top welters, or top Jnr welters.

[aboutfkntime]

Not every fighter who could enforce catchweights does so.

All Freddie did was taint Cotto's last two wins.

Cotto would've beat Martinez and Geale without a catchweight, now he has this reputation as a catchweight champion for no good reason.

Thats how I see it.

[aboutfkntime]

I find it hilarious that Algieri was at a catchweight.

Yea WTF ?

Rios was bad enough, but Algieri ?

Fcuk me !

[Build That Wall]

Trainer Freddie Roach surprisingly admits that he's not a fan of catch-weight fights. The statement is surprising considering that two of Roach's biggest names, Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto, have demanded catch-weight stipulations from several of their opponents.

Cotto had catch-weight fights with Antonio Margarito (rematch), Sergio Martinez and Daniel Geale. He says a catch-weight stipulation will be in place for anyone who wants to face him for the middleweight title.
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That is such Bull**** Freddie.

[aboutfkntime]

I don't remember anyone doing catch weights until pac.

Pac did not invent catchweights.....

..... but he made a career out of using them.

Pac did not invent them, but he made it the norm for catchweights to be part of a fight negotiation..... before that, boxing had divisions

Using " Manny-weight " to manipulate opponents on the scale, was a nasty precedent that lowered the standards within boxing.

Good luck Golovkin, explaining to Cotto why you are unhappy fighting him at 155, when Cotto got forced to put his welterweight title on the line at 145.

[aboutfkntime]

All of you people who accepted " manny-weight ".....

..... can STFU about " cotto-weight ", and " canelo-weight ".

What did you morons expect ?