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  • Suckmedry
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    #21
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    Hearns is so hard to gauge at 147

    he had a lot of kayos but his competition and opponents aren't great....he lost to SRL but blew out Pipino Cuevas who was made to order


    I think physically strong guys with good chins like Porter,Maidana and Thurman would give him the most trouble though Hearns would be the favorite


    at this weight Hearns didn't have much of an inside game, his stamina wasn't tested much, and he didn't get hit much


    I think since he was at his best weight and skills prime yet, he could lose to fighters better than Pipino but not quite as good as SRL who showed if you can smother him and get away from the jab and right that he could be mauled and battered



    people tend to forget that you don't have to be a great fighter to beat a great fighter

    Iran Barkley, Kirkland Laing against Duran, Arguably Bruce Curry in fight one with Benitez


    styles make fights and I can see Hearns being outmuscled
    Hearns would lay waste to all in his path at 147 today. Those guys you mentioned would literally all be finished inside 6.

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    • Suckmedry
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      #22
      Again, Hearns would honestly KO everyone at WW today inside 6. Including this version of Floyd and Manny. The guy moved like a dancer, jab like a telegraph pole and a right hand from hell.

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #23
        Originally posted by BrushMyAssHair
        Again, Hearns would honestly KO everyone at WW today inside 6. Including this version of Floyd and Manny. The guy moved like a dancer, jab like a telegraph pole and a right hand from hell.
        Totally agree.... Tommy hearns was a monster welter and was only defeated by a prime ATG leonard in a brutal fight which hearns dominated for long stretches..

        He easily ko's thurman, Porter, Bradley, etc...


        Donald curry would beat everyone as well..

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          #24
          Is someone actually dis*****g Hearns wouldn't have laid waste to the WW division of today? I haven't read through the thread yet.

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            #25
            Donald curry crushes present day welters... All of them

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            • Elroy1
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              #26
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Welter is a very weak division now, hence why it is overrun by smaller guys like floyd,manny, marquez, Bradley..

              Donald curry would be killing dudes if he was around now....


              Oscar, tito, Ike, shane, vernon,,,m that's a true welter division....

              That was a beaut division too.

              But the current one contains probably the best defensive and the best offensive boxers respectively, lb for lb of all time, with a supporting cast of elite fighting machines rivalling any other eras.

              To call it weak because it's 2 shining examples came up from lower divisions as is possible now days, it's pretty silly.

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              • Elroy1
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                #27
                Originally posted by b00g13man
                Is someone actually dis*****g Hearns wouldn't have laid waste to the WW division of today? I haven't read through the thread yet.
                Hearns is a bit of an iffy statement as he went up to cruiser even, he had a long lanky frame.

                I am not sure how the modern era boxers would handle Hearns but I do know that Leonard and Hagler did and I don't view them as better than the best of today.

                So it IS questionable.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
                  Duran-Bradley would be a hella good fight.
                  Lol Hearns vs. Brook.. Hearns cracks the China in under 3.
                  Hearns was carrying some pretty shiny china himself.

                  But what stands out for me is the sheer size differential between modern day WWs and WWs of the 70s and 80s and even earlier. In fact, even well into the 90s there were some big, strong WWs such as Oscar and Tito.

                  Nowadays, the division seems to be made up of guys moving up from FW/LW/LWW or draining themselves to make 147 with better nutrition that allows them to lose weight more effectively.

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                  • therealpugilist
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                    #29
                    Personally I don't think it takes an atg to beat hearns at 147...he was brutal and talented but very young and wasn't a complete fighter yet...didn't take an atg to best him near his prime in Iran Barkley 2x when he was more skilled

                    Styles make fights....the right mix of strength toughness an inside game could get to young hearns n smother his power


                    Prime Leonard vs prime Floyd n PAC at ww is no cakewalk for srl

                    The myth modern guys are gonna roll over and die at the site of fighters of the past is funny


                    Duran and benitez were great but erratic at times at ww

                    Cuevas would take multiple losses to today's guys...look at his record n his opposition

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      Welter is a very weak division now, hence why it is overrun by smaller guys like floyd,manny, marquez, Bradley..

                      Donald curry would be killing dudes if he was around now....


                      Oscar, tito, Ike, shane, vernon,,,m that's a true welter division....
                      Wtf... You're trippin bro...
                      No stronger division right now than welter.
                      Mayweather, Bradley, Pac, Guerrero, Thurman, Maidana, Porter, Khan, Brook, Sadam Ali, Chaves...
                      Tell me a single division which is better. With names. And don't say just 3-4 names tell a weight class where the top 10-11 is as strong in welter.

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