Modern day WW's vs The past

[FrankieBruno]

they were all on roids back then

[Ham Porter]

Hearns is so hard to gauge at 147

he had a lot of kayos but his competition and opponents aren't great....he lost to SRL but blew out Pipino Cuevas who was made to order

No, he fought who was relevant back then. You don't know them, because alphabet soup belts weren't handed out back then like cotton candy at a fairground, which is the only way spackers like you are seemingly capable of judging a boxers worth.

@ ****ing stubby-armed midgets like Porter, Maidana & Derpman not being made for him.

[daggum]

Hearns is so hard to gauge at 147

he had a lot of kayos but his competition and opponents aren't great....he lost to SRL but blew out Pipino Cuevas who was made to order


I think physically strong guys with good chins like Porter,Maidana and Thurman would give him the most trouble though Hearns would be the favorite


at this weight Hearns didn't have much of an inside game, his stamina wasn't tested much, and he didn't get hit much


I think since he was at his best weight and skills prime yet, he could lose to fighters better than Pipino but not quite as good as SRL who showed if you can smother him and get away from the jab and right that he could be mauled and battered



people tend to forget that you don't have to be a great fighter to beat a great fighter

Iran Barkley, Kirkland Laing against Duran, Arguably Bruce Curry in fight one with Benitez


styles make fights and I can see Hearns being outmuscled

hearns was 4-1 against top 10 guys and the one loss was a 14th round ko loss to an all time great in a fight he was winning. You still aren't sold? yeah maidana would probably ko him.

[therealpugilist]

No, he fought who was relevant back then. You don't know them, because alphabet soup belts weren't handed out back then like cotton candy at a fairground, which is the only way spackers like you are seemingly capable of judging a boxers worth.

@ ****ing stubby-armed midgets like Porter, Maidana & Derpman not being made for him.

Bro alphabet soups been around before you were born...there's been the ring belt since the 20s, the IBC, the NBA and nysac champs who were recognized as world champions since the early 1900s

Wbc and wbc are alphabet soup and hearns won belts from the wbc, wbo and wba over various divisions where he was not lineal

You pose like you followed boxing a long time but you don't

His comp at 147 isn't as good as it was at higher weights nor was hearns in his prime yet
...youre in fantasy land


His inside game, defense, conditioning and ability to clinch at the right time was not there at 147


He was very good but not as good as he was at 154 or higher

Iran Barkley is no better a fighter than the top guys at ww


Hearns kayoed a lot of stiffs at this weight and a few decent guys...pipino is in the hall but a few of today's guys would cook him...his comp was OK...didn't fight palomino or benitez when they were champs... They held the wbc when he had the wba man

[Ham Porter]

Bro alphabet soups been around before you were born...there's been the ring belt since the 20s, the IBC, the NBA and nysac champs who were recognized as world champions since the early 1900s

Wbc and wbc are alphabet soup and hearns won belts from the wbc, wbo and wba over various divisions where he was not lineal

You pose like you followed boxing a long time but you don't

That's right, less than there is now. The NBA & NYSAC almost always recognised the top fighters of each weight class, at worst the the other champion was the second best guy was a champion - that's how it was for most of the 20th century, even when the NBA became the WBA & the WBC replaced the NYSAC as far as influence.

The point is, you're the sort of dunce the places great emphasis on winning titles. The contenders Hearns beat at 147 (Randy Shields, Harold Weston, Clyde Gray) never won titles because the opportunities to win them back then aren't as vast or readily available now as they were back then.

His comp at 147 isn't as good as it was at higher weights nor was hearns in his prime yet
...youre in fantasy land


His inside game, defense, conditioning and ability to clinch at the right time was not there at 147


He was very good but not as good as he was at 154 or higher

His prime was at 147 & 154. Nobody tested him at 154 because there wasn't a Ray Leonard to do so in the division. And @ him being a better fighter beyond those weights.

Iran Barkley is no better a fighter than the top guys at ww

Iran Barkley was a physically massive middleweight with the toughness and firepower to match. If you're using his win over Hearns to highlight why a bunch of significantly smaller manlets could also do the same, you're doing a ****ing awful job of arguing it.

[Elroy1]

All of todays WW's would do well in the 80's equally or even better.

The 80's was a strong era for the weight but still not as strong as today.

It was the beginning of the professional era where sports science first was seriously applied to boxing.

But today's mega athletes are so good it's a bit rich to demote them.

I think Floyd and Pac for example would beat Leonard and Duran.

I think that Canelo Alvarez would beat Hagler at MW!

^ Most guys would gasp at that above statement but the actual performances of the 2 guys doesn't lead me to a different conclusion.

[RED REP]

Hearn beats everybody on that list twice.

[RED REP]

All of todays WW's would do well in the 80's equally or even better.

The 80's was a strong era for the weight but still not as strong as today.

It was the beginning of the professional era where sports science first was seriously applied to boxing.

But today's mega athletes are so good it's a bit rich to demote them.

I think Floyd and Pac for example would beat Leonard and Duran.

I think that Canelo Alvarez would beat Hagler at MW!

^ Most guys would gasp at that above statement but the actual performances of the 2 guys doesn't lead me to a different conclusion.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

NO!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Welter is a very weak division now, hence why it is overrun by smaller guys like floyd,manny, marquez, Bradley..

Donald curry would be killing dudes if he was around now....


Oscar, tito, Ike, shane, vernon,,,m that's a true welter division....

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Donald curry would be killing fools