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  • RED REP
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    #11
    Two men striking each other with only their bare hands in competition can be traced back to Ancient Greece and the Olympics of BC688 but Prizefighing as we know it (kind of) was largely happening in Great Britain from the 16th century through to the 18th century and it's here where you'll find the true foundations and originators of Boxing. Humans have being engaging in hand to hand combat since the dawn of time but boxing today certainly grew from the prizefighting that happened here in Britain over 200 years ago and with that in mind it doesn't surprise me that we are in the top tier of countries on the planet with great history of boxing.

    Pound for pound I'd say we are up there.

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    • HEND
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      #12
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      The UK has 892 active boxers if my calculations are correct.
      For me it counts till 100 and after that no more. USA, Russia, etc are the same...

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      • dan_cov
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        #13
        Originally posted by HEND
        For me it counts till 100 and after that no more. USA, Russia, etc are the same...

        I think you're looking at p4p?
        I changed p4p to heavyweight and worked down to minimumweight tallying the numbers all up.

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        • HEND
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          #14
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          I think you're looking at p4p?
          I changed p4p to heavyweight and worked down to minimumweight tallying the numbers all up.
          Ohh, so you tallied up. Yes I looked at P4P, I thought they don't cut the list at 100.

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          • HEND
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            #15
            Cuba: 4,5 champions (idk if Lara's regular count or not), 5,5 big belts (with Rigo has two) with only 44 pro boxers. That's TIGHT.

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              #16
              Originally posted by HEND
              Cuba: 4,5 champions (idk if Lara's regular count or not), 5,5 big belts (with Rigo has two) with only 44 pro boxers. That's TIGHT.
              Cuba is tricky because the fighters that go pro are the absolute best they have. They have to be to generate enough interest for someone to risk smuggling them out ofCuba (at personal cost) andgetting their pro career started.

              The UK is a good boxing nation. Our Amateur system is much better than it was 10-15 years ago and hopefully it will continue to bear fruit.

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              • Dolezal
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                #17
                I think that small island called America is still the best.

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                • fastjabs2015
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                  #18
                  UK is not a small country - 65 million people is a lot. The UK does produce world class fighters with some regularity and that's really great for the sport.

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                  • 1g5a22
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                    #19
                    Good responses so far, cheers. In regards to Cuba, yes they do produce great talent & currently may have some champions but this thread was meant historically as well as present. If Cuba had produced pro talent on the scale they produced amateur talent historically then maybe they could have been heads above in terms of p4p (Russia would be right up there too!) But they didn't hence that is pure speculation. Not all great amateur talent go onto be great pro's though! At the minute the very best Cubans are turning pro, Rigo, Solis, Lara etc but many have faltered too.. I think the UK is at least going to get one other champion in the coming months too in Groves! I'd also favour Saunders over MW champion Lee too if that fight comes off! But yeah Cuba right now probably have more champions per population total than the UK but historically the UK trumps them in the pro ranks.
                    Last edited by 1g5a22; 06-02-2015, 05:48 PM.

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