Andre Ward's Trainer: "Catchweight was my call"

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  • xhiddenx87
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    Andre Ward's Trainer: "Catchweight was my call"


    So Andre Ward is going to fight at 172 then he is going back to 168. Good to hear that.

    I hope he gets more fights and more often. So we can have the SOG vs GGG clash on one or two more years.(Yep, no ****ing way we are going to have it right now)

    What fight after Smith will be good for Ward? Degeale?
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    #2
    Originally posted by xhiddenx87

    So Andre Ward is going to fight at 172 then he is going back to 168. Good to hear that.

    I hope he gets more fights and more often. So we can have the SOG vs GGG clash on one or two more years.(Yep, no ****ing way we are going to have it right now)

    What fight after Smith will be good for Ward? Degeale?
    If he's dabbling with 172, surely it means KOvalev is the likelier fight?

    Ward is high risk for both, no doubt.

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    • Barcham
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      #3
      Ward wants at least two tune up fights, maybe three. Do not expect him back in the ring with a top contender for the next year or so.

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      • boliodogs
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        #4
        Only champions are obligated to fight at a certain weight which is why I am disgusted with Cotto for changing the 100 year old weight limit of 160 to 157 customizing the weight class just for himself. If you aren't a champion you can fight at any weight you please and it harms nobody, If Ward wants to fight at 172 that's fine. Ignorant Canelo haters need to quit complaining about him fighting at 155. He is not a champion and his fights are not title fights. If he wins a world title and defends it at a wrong weight limit that would be just as bad as what Cotto is doing. Canelo would never do that.

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        • bigjavi973
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          #5
          Originally posted by Barcham
          Ward wants at least two tune up fights, maybe three. Do not expect him back in the ring with a top contender for the next year or so.
          yup thats what you are praying for.

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            #6
            I would like to see ward against degale or groves yet but it's doubtful he would go to the uk for either fight.

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            • Eastcoast
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              Per David Itzkowitz, it sounds more like Ward's moving up rather than what Virgil's saying that they don't need to make 168.

              Also not following why Hunter brings up Ward's minimum being more than what Golovkin made vs Monroe. That kind of proves the point why the fight's not happening. Golovkin's the A-side here, he's not going to move up in weight and draw the crowd just so Ward can make as much money.


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                #8
                Originally posted by Eastcoast
                Per David Itzkowitz, it sounds more like Ward's moving up rather than what Virgil's saying that they don't need to make 168.

                Also not following why Hunter brings up Ward's minimum being more than what Golovkin made vs Monroe. That kind of proves the point why the fight's not happening. Golovkin's the A-side here, he's not going to move up in weight and draw the crowd just so Ward can make as much money.


                Itzkowitz isn't in the gym with Ward, so I doubt he has all that effective a gauge at how, physically, Ward is doing at super middleweight, let alone a better gauge than the only trainer Andre Ward has known since he was 9 nine years old.

                And Hunter brings Ward's minimum up, to make it clear that Andre Ward brings sizable value to the table; Ward-Rodriguez drew 1.2m viewers in 2013, Ward-Dawson did $750k at the live gate at Oracle Arena, and Ward is an actual name fighter. For all this talk of Golovkin being the "A-side", how much has he ever brought in for a live gate? Dollar for dollar, tell me who's really the A-side? lol

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  Only champions are obligated to fight at a certain weight which is why I am disgusted with Cotto for changing the 100 year old weight limit of 160 to 157 customizing the weight class just for himself. If you aren't a champion you can fight at any weight you please and it harms nobody, If Ward wants to fight at 172 that's fine. Ignorant Canelo haters need to quit complaining about him fighting at 155. He is not a champion and his fights are not title fights. If he wins a world title and defends it at a wrong weight limit that would be just as bad as what Cotto is doing. Canelo would never do that.
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Itzkowitz isn't in the gym with Ward, so I doubt he has all that effective a gauge at how, physically, Ward is doing at super middleweight, let alone a better gauge than the only trainer Andre Ward has known since he was 9 nine years old.

                  And Hunter brings Ward's minimum up, to make it clear that Andre Ward brings sizable value to the table; Ward-Rodriguez drew 1.2m viewers in 2013, Ward-Dawson did $750k at the live gate at Oracle Arena, and Ward is an actual name fighter. For all this talk of Golovkin being the "A-side", how much has he ever brought in for a live gate? Dollar for dollar, tell me who's really the A-side? lol
                  GGG just brought in over 12,000 against WILLIE MONROE!!!!! They had to put in additional seating TWICE for his fight against Rubio.

                  Enough with tales of what Ward did way back in 2013. That is ancient history in today's terms. Let's see how many people he draws in his next fight and what the number are for BET. Ward and his fans have been living on past glories long enough. Time to wake up and come into 2015.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    Per David Itzkowitz, it sounds more like Ward's moving up rather than what Virgil's saying that they don't need to make 168.

                    Also not following why Hunter brings up Ward's minimum being more than what Golovkin made vs Monroe. That kind of proves the point why the fight's not happening. Golovkin's the A-side here, he's not going to move up in weight and draw the crowd just so Ward can make as much money.


                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Itzkowitz isn't in the gym with Ward, so I doubt he has all that effective a gauge at how, physically, Ward is doing at super middleweight, let alone a better gauge than the only trainer Andre Ward has known since he was 9 nine years old.

                    And Hunter brings Ward's minimum up, to make it clear that Andre Ward brings sizable value to the table; Ward-Rodriguez drew 1.2m viewers in 2013, Ward-Dawson did $750k at the live gate at Oracle Arena, and Ward is an actual name fighter. For all this talk of Golovkin being the "A-side", how much has he ever brought in for a live gate? Dollar for dollar, tell me who's really the A-side? lol
                    If Virgil had been able to say that Ward's lowest audience figures were higher than GGG's maximum, then yeah. But talking about the purses instead, when GGG is actually a bigger draw than Ward, just illustrates why GGG/Ward would make no financial sense for either right now.

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