The sad thing is.. Golovkin is already declining

[jvsnypes]

I don't know if he has declined or if he is just simply a hype job and a more athletic and faster fighter like Monroe exposed some things. But I do know that Cotto can beat this man. Cotto has a better chance beating GGG than he does Canelo. Lateral movement and hand speed will be the end of GGG. And lets not even talk about him fighting Ward...

[-Kev-]

What is so great about super middleweight? You got Ward, who may or may not even fight there again, and Froch, who's a$$ is already half way out the door. What else do we have? Dirrell brothers? Degale? They do not add up to much.

Well, 168 has better fighters than 160. By a long shot. Like for example, any MW not named GGG would get knocked out by say, Abraham at 168, imo. And let's face it, AA hasn't been a force at SMW for a while now. But he alone can KO the entire 160 1 by 1, if they came up to 168. I really do think AA at least ends up with a winning record against the top 10 MW's, collectively.

[big_james10]

He was fighting almost exclusively in Germany dip****. He's only fought once in his home country and that was because he had legal issues.

Unfortunately he was promoted by Felix Sturms company, which d1cked him around for years. Golovkin lived in Germany and rose up the ranks and became mandatory to Sturm. That was going to be a big fight in Germany and that was his goal. But he stayed mandatory for over two years and the WBA wouldn't enforce it (Sturms manager admitted to paying them $750,000 so that he wouldn't have to fight Golovkin). Golovkin then got into a legal dispute to get out of his contract, which is why he had to fight in Panama a couple times and Kazakhstan in between just so he could stay busy. He's also fought in Denmark.

After your mommy explains the meaning and use of sarcasm to you, I am sure you will understand that you have simply repeated everything I said. Now, finish your warm milk so your mommy can tuck you into bed.

[ИATAS]

Ward Jack Degale Both Dirells, Froch, Abraham, Bika. Ward and Froch alone should speak for itself. I know there is others too.

Those fights would be much more suited for Golovkin imo than Jacobs, Lemiuex, Quillin, Cotto, Lee.

Only Froch and Ward mean anything. Dirrells both just lost, Bika is a journeyman, and Abraham is done. I'd MUCH rather see Cotto/Lemiuex/Quillin/Lee/Jacobs than those fights.

Golovkin is too good for MW and that in itself is more the issue than comparing the two divisions. Outside of a fight with Canelo why should he fight there from a competitive stand point? What's the point, he's not fooling anyone.

Why did Bernard Hopkins fight there for so many years when he couldn't unify or land any big names? Why did Hagler? Hopkins finally got his big fight at 36 against Trinidad and the other title holders avoided him for years (Don King fighters). How'd his career turn out? Imagine if Hopkins would have moved up in weight out of frustration? He would have never unified ALL the titles, never would have been lineal champ, never would have fought Trinidad and Oscar. Never would have had a record 20 middleweight title defenses. Never would have been considered an ATG middleweight. He stayed patient. I hope GGG does the same (except for Froch and Ward later down the road). Golovkin has stated it's his goal to unify 160, and that's very important to him. Who are you to question his dream?

[ИATAS]

After your mommy explains the meaning and use of sarcasm to you, I am sure you will understand that you have simply repeated everything I said. Now, finish your warm milk so your mommy can tuck you into bed.

Quite obviously it's not what you said. Golovkin had a bit of a name in Germany before he came to HBO. A Sturm fight would have been a pretty good event there.

[ИATAS]

Well, 168 has better fighters than 160. By a long shot. Like for example, any MW not named GGG would get knocked out by say, Abraham at 168, imo. And let's face it, AA hasn't been a force at SMW for a while now. But he alone can KO the entire 160 1 by 1, if they came up to 168. I really do think AA at least ends up with a winning record against the top 10 MW's, collectively.

Lol calling BS on that one. Abraham doesn't knockout anyone anymore, not even bums.

[Redd Foxx]

He hasn't been pushed so there is no measure to gauge his abilities. I think he's so used to fighting lower level guys that he doesn't have the aggression or fear a fighter has when facing top guys any more. It may come to bite him in the ass because he's been driving under the speed limit for so long that he might not remember how to race.

[SeekDaGreat]

Only Froch and Ward mean anything. Dirrells both just lost, Bika is a journeyman, and Abraham is done. I'd MUCH rather see Cotto/Lemiuex/Quillin/Lee/Jacobs than those fights.



Why did Bernard Hopkins fight there for so many years when he couldn't unify or land any big names? Why did Hagler? Hopkins finally got his big fight at 36 against Trinidad and the other title holders avoided him for years (Don King fighters). How'd his career turn out? Imagine if Hopkins would have moved up in weight out of frustration? He would have never unified ALL the titles, never would have been lineal champ, never would have fought Trinidad and Oscar. Never would have had a record 20 middleweight title defenses. Never would have been considered an ATG middleweight. He stayed patient. I hope GGG does the same (except for Froch and Ward later down the road). Golovkin has stated it's his goal to unify 160, and that's very important to him. Who are you to question his dream?

That's fine, then in the meantime he will continue to be scrutinized, and rightfully so. His dream is not in line with what people want to see from him. Eventually he will get his record defenses and unify his titles... I just hope it's not too late and he doesn't become the guy who woulda, could a, shoulda.

And for the record Golovkin moving up to fight two of the best, top 10 fighters in the world is not "desperation by my standards. I'd say it's admirable.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

I don't know if he has declined or if he is just simply a hype job and a more athletic and faster fighter like Monroe exposed some things. But I do know that Cotto can beat this man. Cotto has a better chance beating GGG than he does Canelo. Lateral movement and hand speed will be the end of GGG. And lets not even talk about him fighting Ward...

Lol.

No.

[ИATAS]

That's fine, then in the meantime he will continue to be scrutinized, and rightfully so. His dream is not in line with what people want to see from him. Eventually he will get his record defenses and unify his titles... I just hope it's not too late and he doesn't become the guy who woulda, could a, shoulda.

And for the record Golovkin moving up to fight two of the best, top 10 fighters in the world is not "desperation by my standards. I'd say it's admirable.

That's exactly what he's trying to do though. Unify, fight big names, fight Froch (and previously Chavez), eventually Ward. That's what I'm trying to say - these demands are unrealistic as he's been trying to fight these guys. Just be patient, they'll come.