Comments Thread For: Cotto: I Have Nothing To Prove To Canelo or Golovkin

[kafkod]

Your audacity knows no bounds. Boiling down. Lol. No s h I t. If he had to "boil down from 180 to make weight how da**** is he a mw weight. It's called cheating. Or ducking people in your real weight class. Cotto and floyd essentially walk into the scales and gain a few pounds on fight night. Ggg geale et al boil down do the can destroy smaller folk while avoid the wards.

And btw. People have literally died in the ring from trying to boil down to far. Wtf. Get off your weight class trip.

I didn't say anything about Geale boiling down from 180, you just pulled that out of your arse, like the rest of your ****** observations, so I don't know who you are quoting there.

And if you are capable of rational human thought, which I doubt, ask yourself this - if weight classes are not important, why did Cotto insist on a CW before he would fight Geale?

[Heavyfist]

Cotto should be ashamed of himself.

People in NYC say Ricans are thieves, h0m0s and cowards. I see that Cotto is proving them right.

[Barcham]

Thats because they, like I said before, are the 1 & 2 in this era. If anything Mosley if HOF bound.

If Cotto refuses to fight GGG, I believe that hurts his chances of entering the HoF. Even fighting and losing is better than ducking.

Cotto only needs to beat Geale, if he stops him I would predict it to come in the mid to late rounds. I don't see Cotto blitzing him the way GGG did at all though.

Cotto vs. Canelo and then we'll see how the cards fall. I know that sucks for Golovkin but I expect this to be a good process of elimination. I don't think Cotto vs. GGG will still be a talking point after Cotto vs. Alvarez.

I don't think Cotto vs GGG is a talking point now. That fight will never happen and the only thing to talk about in regards to Cotto is whether he will vacate his title or be stripped.

[bigjer88]

If Cotto refuses to fight GGG, I believe that hurts his chances of entering the HoF. Even fighting and losing is better than ducking.



I don't think Cotto vs GGG is a talking point now. That fight will never happen and the only thing to talk about in regards to Cotto is whether he will vacate his title or be stripped.

Five years after Cotto retires, I really don't think the HoF voters will fault him for not fighting GGG. I think the boxing community (writers, boxers, ex-boxers) is generally more sympathetic to Cotto's current posture than the fans are. They (the HoF voters) are not going to hold it against him.

[Barcham]

Five years after Cotto retires, I really don't think the HoF voters will fault him for not fighting GGG. I think the boxing community (writers, boxers, ex-boxers) is generally more sympathetic to Cotto's current posture than the fans are. They (the HoF voters) are not going to hold it against him.

I actually think the boxing community will be much tougher on Cotto for ducking GGG than the fans are. Especially fighters who never ducked anyone during their careers. I see him getting little leeway there. Cotto would be better served by fighting and losing than by ducking and holding the title hostage.

[bigjavi973]

what makes him the A side vs canelo though?

Canelo sells better and gets higher ratings then Jotto does

"for saying Margaritto had plaster. you have no proof he beat Jotto with them."

Red K me and give me this message? Capetillo was and still is full of shit.

[bigjer88]

I actually think the boxing community will be much tougher on Cotto for ducking GGG than the fans are. Especially fighters who never ducked anyone during their careers. I see him getting little leeway there. Cotto would be better served by fighting and losing than by ducking and holding the title hostage.

Obviously, it's speculative at this point...but I think when all is said and done in Cotto's career, the point of focus will not be limited to his 154+ years. He's had a long career -- a lot of people thought he was done after July 2008. Here we are, 7 years later, a lifetime in boxing years. I think that's pretty remarkable in and of itself.

I think HoF voters will realize that Cotto did not "duck" anyone until he was well beyond his optimal weight class and needed to be more selective. While some have understandably been critical of Cotto holding the belt hostage, I have not seen many writers (or other fighters/ex-fighters) critical of Cotto for not fighting GGG (if you can separate the two...I think you can). One way or another, he won't be holding the belt hostage for much longer. Though I can appreciate the furstration for GGG fans, what's happening right now is not sufficiently egregious to sabotage the rest of his career. Five years after Cotto's retirement -- which will be long after GGG has demolished top competition closer to his size -- few people will care about this.

[bigjavi973]

If Cotto refuses to fight GGG, I believe that hurts his chances of entering the HoF. Even fighting and losing is better than ducking.



I don't think Cotto vs GGG is a talking point now. That fight will never happen and the only thing to talk about in regards to Cotto is whether he will vacate his title or be stripped.

Suuuuure... then according to that logic, if he beats GGG he should automatically be placed in the HOF.

[Barcham]

Obviously, it's speculative at this point...but I think when all is said and done in Cotto's career, the point of focus will not be limited to his 154+ years. He's had a long career -- a lot of people thought he was done after July 2008. Here we are, 7 years later, a lifetime in boxing years. I think that's pretty remarkable in and of itself.

I think HoF voters will realize that Cotto did not "duck" anyone until he was well beyond his optimal weight class and needed to be more selective. While some have understandably been critical of Cotto holding the belt hostage, I have not seen many writers (or other fighters/ex-fighters) critical of Cotto for not fighting GGG (if you can separate the two...I think you can). One way or another, he won't be holding the belt hostage for much longer. Though I can appreciate the furstration for GGG fans, what's happening right now is not sufficiently egregious to sabotage the rest of his career. Five years after Cotto's retirement -- which will be long after GGG has demolished top competition closer to his size -- few people will care about this.

My objection to what Cotto is doing has nothing to do with being a fan of GGG and everything to do with being a fan of boxing. I would voice the same objections for any title holder who is ducking his top competition and mandatory challenger or holding a title hostage. I feel the same way about Floyd and his titles at 154 and Ward and his SMW title.

I think attitudes such as Cotto thinking he is above the sport, damage boxing and are a major reason why boxing is a fringe sport today and will remain so. There is no other sport where this sort of crap is permitted to go on.

[Barcham]

Suuuuure... then according to that logic, if he beats GGG he should automatically be placed in the HOF.

Not at all. That would be only one win among many in a career. No one win or loss should be enough to make or break a HoF induction. But a refusal to abide by the terms of a championship contract should be a black mark on a fighter's career and taken into consideration when voting.