Which 168 Fighter Is More Athletically Gifted? Degale, Dirrell, Ward, Froch?

[SplitSecond]

I added "and in doing that he still gets his punches off very fast". That's athleticism, I could also bring up the fact that Ward's upper body movement is visibly faster than Dirrell's, certainly more flexible.

Stop. Wards upper-body movement is nowhere near Dirrells. Ward's body movement consists of a simple; bend over.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Stop. Wards upper-body movement is nowhere near Dirrells. Ward's body movement consists of a simple; bend over.

I've watched enough of them to say that it's better.

[SplitSecond]

I've watched enough of them to say that it's better.

Better was perhaps not the right word, but I'm saying it pertaining to the topic of athleticism, and you're claim that Ward's upperbody is faster or more flexible is pretty ******ed, unless you haven't actually watched Dirrell.

[SplitSecond]

[SplitSecond]

Sorry, last ones.

[bojangles1987]

That's bold.
I don't wanna bitching about it but why you see on this way?
I think DeGale is solid, agile and technical but Ward is on an other level and would beat him with ease.

I'd say they're on the same talent level as well. Both are quick and strong, but neither is exactly a dynamo athletically the way Dirrell is.

Difference being, of course, that Ward is among the most skilled fighters in boxing. Ward certainly is gifted, but not exceptionally so. He is so much better than others because he is remarkably well schooled and intelligent in the ring. Whatever people think of Virgil Hunter overall, he's done great things with Andre Ward.

[New England]

speed and pwoer are teh basic components of talent in boxing.

it's andre dirrell. it's not all that close.

froch is strong mentally and physically.
ward is strong mentally and has great, great craft. also has very solid upper body movement and handspeed. he outmuscled froch on the inside, if you recall.
groves is a decent athlete with decent power.

[New England]

I've watched enough of them to say that it's better.

that doesnt' mean he's a better athlete. ward's vision is much, much better than dirrell. dirrell reacts. ward anticipates.

[daggum]

ward athletic? lol! is wlad athletic too because of his holding ability?

[daggum]

that doesnt' mean he's a better athlete. ward's vision is much, much better than dirrell. dirrell reacts. ward anticipates.

ward and wlad both anticipate when their opponent is about to throw a punch and hold them before they can do it. its brilliant stuff. their opponents must want to throw a lot of punches!