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  • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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    #91
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    Mayweather so hated he gots cats trying to claim a L on him or some such nuttiness cuz he's smaller than a bigger guy or something lmmfao. Some of the comments in this thread are unintentionally hilarious.
    man its like a bunch of 12 year olds in here speaking their minds wtf is going on?

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        #93
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Will Weidman still be at the top of his sport in 17 years time ?
        Most likely not,in MMA in general it is harder to stay on top as you don't know who you are fighting most of the time and the level of the skillsets as MMa is much more variable included which why fighter D could beat A in a heart beat,you really have to be the best prepared for all possible ways a fight could go..UFc guys cannot pick who they fight either,and average 3 fights a year with top level guys...the UFc champion in its history since 1993 has only defended the belt 3 or 4 times I think the average champion there has defended it twice because of what I have just stated.Cain is the first one who may be the dominate champion in its history with a few more wins.Mayweather has had the advantage doing one skill set and was averaged I believas a 10 to 1 favoruiye almost always,it doesn't really work like that in UFc the match ups are pretty close in competition,thats just the way sthe two sports are set up,if you can be exceptionally well in one skill set well then you would be in Wlad or Floyds shoes.

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          #94
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Most likely not,in MMA in general it is harder to stay on top as you don't know who you are fighting most of the time and the level of the skillsets as MMa is much more variable included which why fighter D could beat A in a heart beat,you really have to be the best prepared for all possible ways a fight could go..UFc guys cannot pick who they fight either,and average 3 fights a year with top level guys...the UFc champion in its history since 1993 has only defended the belt 3 or 4 times I think the average champion there has defended it twice because of what I have just stated.Cain is the first one who may be the dominate champion in its history with a few more wins.
          Interesting, there definitely are benefits to the MMA model.

          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Mayweather has had the advantage doing one skill set
          Well, he is a pure boxer..... and when considering all of the different possible style matchups, pure boxers do have an advantage over almost all of the other styles..... but he still has to face guys with different styles, the same as Weidman.

          I dont know much about MMA, but surely there must be a dominant style, or a style that will give you an advantage over more styles, than others will.

          Probably wrong here, as I dont know MMA very well.... but that guy DeSilva, he was mainly Brazilian jiu-jitsu, right? And he was dominant for quite some time, right? So, does that make Brazilian jiu-jitsu the best style?

          So, have other BJJ exponents been as successful at DeSilva? indicating that particular style offers an advantage..... or, was DeSilva was just an outstanding/elite fighter?

          Because, there are many pure boxers, Mayweather is elite, that is the difference.

          17 years is a long time bro.

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            #95
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            Interesting, there definitely are benefits to the MMA model.



            Well, he is a pure boxer..... and when considering all of the different possible style matchups, pure boxers do have an advantage over almost all of the other styles..... but he still has to face guys with different styles, the same as Weidman.

            I dont know much about MMA, but surely there must be a dominant style, or a style that will give you an advantage over more styles, than others will.

            Probably wrong here, as I dont know MMA very well.... but that guy DeSilva, he was mainly Brazilian jiu-jitsu, right? And he was dominant for quite some time, right? So, does that make Brazilian jiu-jitsu the best style?

            So, have other BJJ exponents been as successful at DeSilva? indicating that particular style offers an advantage..... or, was DeSilva was just an outstanding/elite fighter?

            Because, there are many pure boxers, Mayweather is elite, that is the difference.

            17 years is a long time bro.
            The most dominating style is ultimately wrestling because you can choose where the fight will go, if you have bad standup you can take them down and ground and pound them to tap out / TKO.

            Elite strikers find it hard to perform vs Elite Wrestlers because their always worried about the takedown thus hindering their standup.

            Also 1 wrestling round is equivalent to 5 boxing rounds in terms of energy and stamina.

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              #96
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              Interesting, there definitely are benefits to the MMA model.



              Well, he is a pure boxer..... and when considering all of the different possible style matchups, pure boxers do have an advantage over almost all of the other styles..... but he still has to face guys with different styles, the same as Weidman.

              I dont know much about MMA, but surely there must be a dominant style, or a style that will give you an advantage over more styles, than others will.

              Probably wrong here, as I dont know MMA very well.... but that guy DeSilva, he was mainly Brazilian jiu-jitsu, right? And he was dominant for quite some time, right? So, does that make Brazilian jiu-jitsu the best style?

              So, have other BJJ exponents been as successful at DeSilva? indicating that particular style offers an advantage..... or, was DeSilva was just an outstanding/elite fighter?

              Because, there are many pure boxers, Mayweather is elite, that is the difference.

              17 years is a long time bro.
              Its not basically a style its who can put together what they know better ,of course a guy with elite grappling will fare better on average ,but its who can strike wrestle and be a formidable submission artist that will win ,of course a guy like Cain ,who is dominant at pure wrestling makes him a handful hes also very good at kickboxing and has a black belt in Jui Jitsu which he uses as more submission defense ....Silva lost when he met a bigger ,taller guy than him who was a better puncher who could also dictate where the fight could go in Weidman ,hot discrediting Silva but i picked Weidman over him twice ,i knew he was a level up , i trained briefly with some of the guys in his camp years ago in N.Y,so i knew the level he had was more than enough as Silva was more of a Mui THai stylist to be exact and Weidman would k.o him with the longer reach and much better chin ,Silva was beat on all points of the fight from striking to grappling,i knew this and i made out well on both Weidman wins $$$

              When i said only one style in boxing i was just referring to the hands as thats the only thing you can hit with .In MMA ,hands ,kicks ,knees ,and elbows are all allowed in certain positions ,throw in the rules of grappling with the abilities to use chokes,and other various submissions and you get a much more diverse way to end a fight was my point ,pure wrestles or Juijitstu guys really dont go in UFC anymore at the end of the day you have to be more than just dominant in one skill as every one knows a bit of at least 2 disciplines now,ill leave you a quote from the toughest boxer outside a boxing ring....


              "Only a fool would enter MMA without some knowledge in grappling ,you just cant know boxing and think you will win,including myself "M.Tyson

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