Tim Bradley>>>>>Wladimir Klitschko??????WTF

[Gucci]

unbias fan can agree

Rios>Bradley

Only difference is Bradley got a gift against Pacquaio and Marquez was scared of facing Rios.

[Lester Tutor]

How does that equate to being higher than Wladimir Klitscko on p4p rankings???? Does anyone truely think that Tim bradley will go down in history as better than Wlad??

Current p4p should ideally be different that ''HOF.'' HOwever, Stallone is in the HOF.

Bradley's a very skilled athlete. I rather watch his fights than the clinching king Klitschko. Was good times when he got schooled by the Southpaw Corrie Sanders. Shannon Briggs has been taunting Klitschko. Why Klistchko hasn't taken that bout is beyond me.

[Elroy1]

The way I understand lb for lb... Tim Bradley WOULD rate higher than Wladimir Klitscko.

I think that, objectively speaking, Wladimir Klitschko now has the best HW record by far of any boxer of all time. Nobody has beaten and dominated so many good opponents.

But despite all his sharp skills and athleticism, his success is strongly dependant on his height and weight.

He only outweighs half of his opponents, but where he is outweighed, the difference is normally negligible. He out-talls nearly all of his opponents.

What's more, the guys that do out-tall and/or outweigh him are usually far more deficient in other areas.

His immense range, allied to his weight and strength are paramount inescapable qualities his style depends on. Same as for Vitali Klitschko, LEnnox Lewis, Larry Holmes and Muhammad Ali before him.

For that reason, neither Klitschko, or any of these other guys above, belong on a lb for lb toplist imo.

Limit weight boxers like Bradley will ALWAYS be better lb for lb than a natural HW boxer, because they fight other boxers of approximately the same height and weight of similar body composition also and therefore need the complete range of skills to be competitive.

With guys like Klitscko and the others listed above, they can be successful by doing only a few things good, but doing them exceptionally well!

The only HW's who can rate lb for lb really imo are guys like
Holyfield, Haye, Cunningham, Adamek, Byrd, Chambers etc.. Former limit weight boxers who stepped up.

And one single exception to the rule, Mike Tyson!

[HEND]

Bradley beat JMM fair and square. JMM > everybody on Wlad's resume.
+ Peterson and Alexander at the time when Bradley fought them are also better than most of Wlad's opponents.
If the 147 division would be just as swallow as the hevyweight was in the last 10 years then Bradley would have probably also ruled it.

[frantic fighter]

I have been asking this question forever.Over the last 3 years he has been dominated twice by Pacquiao. Barely won a decision against a 40 year old Marquez,went life and death with a very limited fighter in Provodnkov and fought to a draw against an obscure fighter.

[Elroy1]

Bradley beat JMM fair and square. JMM > everybody on Wlad's resume.
+ Peterson and Alexander at the time when Bradley fought them are also better than most of Wlad's opponents.
If the 147 division would be just as swallow as the hevyweight was in the last 10 years then Bradley would have probably also ruled it.

The HW division has never been as strong as it has been in the last 10 years.

But even if you don't agree with that it matters not...

Bradley is still lb for lb greater than Wladimir!

He doesn't rate that high on the toplist that's for sure, but he atleast belongs in the discussion.

[HEND]

I have been asking this question forever.Over the last 3 years he has been dominated twice by Pacquiao. Barely won a decision against a 40 year old Marquez who KTFO Pacquiao on his very last fight before the Bradley one,went life and death with a very limited fighter in Provodnkov and robbed against an obscure fighter.

Fixed it for you. If you think that the Chavez fight was a legitimate draw you should just quit watching this sport. With the same effort I could say he beat Pac once because his record shows that...

Also he wasn't nearly dominated against Pac in their second fight. Bradley was really strong and agile in the first half of the fight after that he faded and lost but maybe because his injured calf which btw seems to be a more true excuses than Pac's dislocated houlder after the May fight since Bradley mentioned that injury just after the fight in the ring not just a day after the fight...
But it's whatever, the point is, he wasn't nearly dominated in their second fight.

[bojangles1987]

Screw Wlad and his cheating.

[frantic fighter]

Fixed it for you. If you think that the Chavez fight was a legitimate draw you should just quit watching this sport. With the same effort I could say he beat Pac once because his record shows that...

Also he wasn't nearly dominated against Pac in their second fight. Bradley was really strong and agile in the first half of the fight after that he faded and lost but maybe because his injured calf which btw seems to be a more true excuses than Pac's dislocated houlder after the May fight since Bradley mentioned that injury just after the fight in the ring not just a day after the fight...
But it's whatever, the point is, he wasn't nearly dominated in their second fight.

Bradley was very good for about four rounds in the second Pacquiao fight,which means for the remaining 8 rounds he was gassed and did nothing.I had Bradley winning the Chavez fight,but only by a two round margin.He took some shots in that fight that no p4p fighter should be taking from the caliber of fighter that Chavez is.Also no matter how you try to swing it a prime Bradley eked out a decision against a 40 year old Marquez.

[yaltamaltadavid]

Neither of them is on a credible p4p top 10. It's no knock against Klit to not highly rate a heavyweight champ in a weak era who wins mostly with his size. Bradley's limitations are obvious and his results far from dominant. I'd say it's fair enough to have them both around 30. It's the best fighters in May 2015, not a career accomplishments list. Pac and Marquez also shouldn't be top 10 p4p. Thurman and Brook would beat Pac, Marquez, and Bradley so they should be regarded as greater fighters p4p right now.

Here's what I have...

Mayweather
Rigondeaux
Gonzalez
Ward
Lomachenko
Crawford
Inoue
Estrada
Golovkin
Kovalev