Andre Ward vs. James DeGale.

[Pigeons]

Yeah that could be the case, but count on Ward to mess this up the man is a Diva now, he wouldn't even fight Bute for crying out loud because he "didn't deserve it", which led to the resurrection of Froch's career. I think Ward will end up fighting one of these guys in 18 months if we're lucky.

You're a moron. You act like the resurrection of Froch's career was somehow a negative for Ward. If anything, it enhances Ward's resume.

Ward told Bute to prove himself if he wanted the fight (like Ward did in the Super 6 beating Kessler, Abraham, Froch). Bute tried and lost his soul. Reaffirming Ward's initial belief that Bute was unworthy.

Froch lost his balls though. He knows he's inferior. He will never fight Ward again. DeGale on the other hand might just be young and ****** enough to take the challenge.

If only Golovkin was as brave.

[daggum]

You're a moron. You act like the resurrection of Froch's career was somehow a negative for Ward. If anything, it enhances Ward's resume.

Ward told Bute to prove himself if he wanted the fight (like Ward did in the Super 6 beating Kessler, Abraham, Froch). Bute tried and lost his soul. Reaffirming Ward's initial belief that Bute was unworthy.

Froch lost his balls though. He knows he's inferior. He will never fight Ward again. DeGale on the other hand might just be young and ****** enough to take the challenge.

If only Golovkin was as brave.

you really believe that sh-it lol. if ward thought bute was overhyped and not very good he would have taken him out and taken that career high payday that went with it. he was scared at the time. he then tried to fight dmitri sartison. why didn't sartison have to prove himself?

[Pigeons]

you really believe that sh-it lol. if ward thought bute was overhyped and not very good he would have taken him out and taken that career high payday that went with it. he was scared at the time. he then tried to fight dmitri sartison. why didn't sartison have to prove himself?

Yes, you're right. Ward was afraid of guy who's best victory was Sakio Bika. A guy who was almost decapitated by Librado Andrade in their first fight. A guy that sat on the sidelines fighting the Edison Miranda's of the world while Ward beat the 3 best SMWs out there (Kessler, Abraham, Froch). Ward must have been shaking in his boots. He probably pooped himself. I'm amazed Ward can even show his face in public.

[JOSH OF LA]

you really believe that sh-it lol. if ward thought bute was overhyped and not very good he would have taken him out and taken that career high payday that went with it. he was scared at the time. he then tried to fight dmitri sartison. why didn't sartison have to prove himself?

Ward should have fought Bute but no way he was scared. Kessler was a much much better version of Bute when Ward beat his ass. There wasn't a serious boxing fan on Earth who would have given Bute a shot of beating Ward.

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Ward should have fought Bute but no way he was scared. Kessler was a much much better version of Bute when Ward beat his ass. There wasn't a serious boxing fan on Earth who would have given Bute a shot of beating Ward.

uh they have different styles. it's not about who is better overall. bute is a southpaw with a big left hand. that's not kessler. stevenson is also a southpaw with a big left hand and ward didn't want that fight either. obviously ward isn't a serious boxer because he thought bute had a shot at beating him. why would ward turn down a career high payday to fight someone who didn't have a shot at beating him? captain hindsight returns!

[daggum]

Yes, you're right. Ward was afraid of guy who's best victory was Sakio Bika. A guy who was almost decapitated by Librado Andrade in their first fight. A guy that sat on the sidelines fighting the Edison Miranda's of the world while Ward beat the 3 best SMWs out there (Kessler, Abraham, Froch). Ward must have been shaking in his boots. He probably pooped himself. I'm amazed Ward can even show his face in public.

i'm just basing it on his actions. its very easy to play captain hindsight but ward didn't want to fight him at the time and he wouldn't do it for a lot of money. he made up comical excuses as to why he wouldn't fight him. if he ****** then just get rid of him and take the money, if he's good then fight him and get props for beating him plus the money. but no ward didn't do either. he tried to fight dmitri sartison. sartison had earned it.

[Pigeons]

i'm just basing it on his actions. its very easy to play captain hindsight but ward didn't want to fight him at the time and he wouldn't do it for a lot of money. he made up comical excuses as to why he wouldn't fight him. if he ****** then just get rid of him and take the money, if he's good then fight him and get props for beating him plus the money. but no ward didn't do either. he tried to fight dmitri sartison. sartison had earned it.

You can talk all you want about Ward "wanting" to fight a guy like Sartison.

But I have proof that Bute actually fought guys like Jesse Brinkley and Jean Paul Mendy. As a champion. He actually fought those guys. Comical really.

[Brickyardigan]

Ward.

No one beats Ward at 168. Dirrell would had beat DeGale if not for those dramatic knockdowns in round 2 which left an impression. Ward not only is more defensively responsible but a much much better technician on the levels of Mayweather in a sense. The only reason he wasn't ranked #1 p4p was because Mayweather was still around.

I hope Ward takes on Kovalev, GGG, and DeGale in his next fights after his fight in june.

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You can talk all you want about Ward "wanting" to fight a guy like Sartison.

But I have proof that Bute actually fought guys like Jesse Brinkley and Jean Paul Mendy. As a champion. He actually fought those guys. Comical really.

i have proof that ward turned down a career high payday against bute. why aren't you addressing that? why are you trying to deflect? we know bute didn't have the best resume so that makes it an even easier fight for ward right? bute certainly was better than sartison agree?

[Juof]

Yes, you're right. Ward was afraid of guy who's best victory was Sakio Bika. A guy who was almost decapitated by Librado Andrade in their first fight. A guy that sat on the sidelines fighting the Edison Miranda's of the world while Ward beat the 3 best SMWs out there (Kessler, Abraham, Froch). Ward must have been shaking in his boots. He probably pooped himself. I'm amazed Ward can even show his face in public.

I remember when miranda was hyped to **** ***128514;