Alexander Povetkin vs. Deontay Wilder

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  • Szef
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    #161
    Povetkin by KO.

    For some unknown reasons people seem to think that Wilder will pull a Wlad on Povetkin, and I'm yet to hear the reasons of why they think so.

    Wilder is tall like Wlad is and that's it. His jab isn't as half as good as Klitschko's, he gets confused when he fights guys with a little head movement and who aren't cement footed. He's also not as physically strong as Wlad and Povetkin.

    Povetkin will go on the inside,go to the body and KO this paper champion.

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      #162
      Originally posted by Szef
      Povetkin by KO.

      For some unknown reasons people seem to think that Wilder will pull a Wlad on Povetkin, and I'm yet to hear the reasons of why they think so.

      Wilder is tall like Wlad is and that's it. His jab isn't as half as good as Klitschko's, he gets confused when he fights guys with a little head movement and who aren't cement footed. He's also not as physically strong as Wlad and Povetkin.

      Povetkin will go on the inside,go to the body and KO this paper champion.
      This is the reason exactly. I feel like Povetkin is a far superior boxer to wilder, but he's shorter, slower and mainly effective on the inside. He knows this and forces his way in fight after fight but he can be countered over his jabs to get on the inside. When he's at range he's shown a pattern of double jabbing and lunging a bit to get inside and Wilder can catch him between them.

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        #163
        Oh, ****, I bet Deontay Wilder is shaking in his boots on the notion of facing this guy:






        Just behold how skillful, aggressive and intimidating Povetkin is on the inside. Can't imagine how dangerous this guy will be when he's fighting on the outside against Wilder.

        On the other hand, look how passive Wilder is when he gets close to his opponents. I'm sure Povetkin will be able to impose his will on Deontay and wear him down with all the great inside fighting and body work he does.





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          #164
          Originally posted by BostonGuy
          Oh, ****, I bet Deontay Wilder is shaking in his boots on the notion of facing this guy:






          Just behold how skillful, aggressive and intimidating Povetkin is on the inside. Can't imagine how dangerous this guy will be when he's fighting on the outside against Wilder.

          On the other hand, look how passive Wilder is when he gets close to his opponents. I'm sure Povetkin will be able to impose his will on Deontay and wear him down with all the great inside fighting and body work he does.





          Wilder has held up pretty good so far. He took some good shots from all his opponents in title fights. I use to think it was an easy fight for Povetkin but that power is pretty hard to ignore. Povetkin has a dynamite left hook so it will be an interesting fight. Wilder & Fury look so beatable because of some of their vulnerabilities. Nobody has been able to exploit them at the championship level. Can Povetkin do it at 37? It isn't a sure thing in my eyes anymore. Wilder & Fury both have good corners & make good adjustments during fights.

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            #165
            freedom is banned?

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            • mlac
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              #166
              its pretty simple really, povetkin is one of the most skilled heavyweights (alongside king kong IMO) wilder is one of the least technically skilled.

              wilder only has a punchers chance, sasha aient stirverne, so comparing that fight is not valid.

              wilder get's knocked out. simple.

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                #167
                Originally posted by joe strong
                Wilder has held up pretty good so far. He took some good shots from all his opponents in title fights. I use to think it was an easy fight for Povetkin but that power is pretty hard to ignore. Povetkin has a dynamite left hook so it will be an interesting fight. Wilder & Fury look so beatable because of some of their vulnerabilities. Nobody has been able to exploit them at the championship level. Can Povetkin do it at 37? It isn't a sure thing in my eyes anymore. Wilder & Fury both have good corners & make good adjustments during fights.
                Yes, finally a sensible post from someone who objectively analyzes this fight. Wilder is not nearly as bad as some on here would lead you to believe, his "vulnerabilities" notwithstanding. And Povetkin is not the world beater that many have elevated him to.

                In all actuality, Povetkin vs Wilder is a pretty close 50/50 matchup. Both guys have their strengths and both have weaknesses in their games. I'm giving Wilder the edge because of his immense power power, aggressiveness, accuracy, reach and height. I think Wilder will use his superior reach, use his razor sharp jab and impose his physicality over the smaller Povetkin.

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                  #168
                  povetkin is a classic inside fighter with little speed and physical disadvantages. He is very skilled but very dependent on his left hook and inside work. If he can be kept at distance he can be beaten.

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                    #169
                    I've never been big on Povetkin, but Wilder looks so bad sometimes (especially early in the fight) that it's not as easy a pick as it might be.

                    That said, Wilder's advantages in youth, size, speed and general athleticism will keep him from being knocked out long enough to land his own big shots and put Povetkin away. Likelihood of this outcome I rate at 6/10 or maybe a hair better.

                    Imo, the next likeliest outcome is that Wilder stays on his toes and keeps Povetkin on the end of his jab, landing an occasional straight right and looking gangly and awkward the whole time, but winning an ugly decision which will be called racist and corrupt on this forum by the usual suspects. The butthurt afflicted will require suicide watch for several weeks.

                    Of course Wilder can get KTFO at any moment through sheer, criminal goofiness in the ring and though I think his strengths will save him, I still rate this possibility at 4/10.

                    Thank you Tyson Fury for getting rid of Wlad. The HW division is now interesting.

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                    • Szef
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                      This is the reason exactly. I feel like Povetkin is a far superior boxer to wilder, but he's shorter, slower and mainly effective on the inside. He knows this and forces his way in fight after fight but he can be countered over his jabs to get on the inside. When he's at range he's shown a pattern of double jabbing and lunging a bit to get inside and Wilder can catch him between them.
                      Originally posted by TheUptownKid
                      povetkin is a classic inside fighter with little speed and physical disadvantages. He is very skilled but very dependent on his left hook and inside work. If he can be kept at distance he can be beaten.
                      Yeah but the thing is, despite his height and reach, Wilder has problems with keeping his opponents on the outside with Stiverne fight being the only exception.

                      But Stiverne, Duhaupas and Molina are all cementfooted and have shitty head movements.

                      I'm not saying he's Sweet Pea but he's much better in those departments than them. And unlike them, he knows how to cut the ring off. Wilder also likes to fight at his own pace. Povetkin won't let him do that.

                      With each fight Wilder's lack of amateur career is showing more and more. Right now, he's winning his fights thanks to his natural talent and athleticism but he's very unexperienced, and that will be the reason of why he will lose this fight.

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