Floyd Mayweather on "Special Substance"

[Ahmed_Ismail]

the point is that you really can't say with 100% certainty that it was non-steroidal if the only testing that was done was urine. saying that you are good with urine only flies in the face of the entire case floyd and co have been making all these years

Vitamins mixed with saltwater is not a steroid, it's a dam mix of vitamins, plus both fighters gave blood and urine on the same days, you can't withdraw blood right after the weigh in cuz the fighter is probably dehydrated, so it makes it dangerous. Pacquiao has definitley taken some kind of vitamin but he didn't tell the commission cuz he knew it won't show in the test, Floyd did it the safe way so that there's no controversy, he told the commission I'll take something and they said ok and the test results were negative, so it's not really a big deal.

[Cinci Champ]

After that, he knocked down and had Mosley running in a fight. How many times did you see Mosley doing that? So no sudden anything.

that was 8 years ago lol less then a year after it all happened u still benefit from ped use 8 months later. that fight was in 07 08 right in the height of the questioning

[ADP02]

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Absolutely nothing to do with Manny.

Fight night weighs in are not official, get your fact right.

Its the perception that Floyd is a small welterweight, he is not, he a mid sized one, who has been as big as any opponent he has face at welter when squared off.

I have to agree with you that at WW, Floyd looks bigger than Floyd fans tend to say.

When you look at Floyd on fight night, he looks bigger. Not just against Manny but as a very good example, he was actually looking bigger and healthier looking than Mosley in that fight.

[Chollo Vista]

When Pac is knocking everyone out it's "but but but, Pac is the same size as Mayweather. Just look at his fight night weight" lol

The minute Pac gets beat soundly by the scores of 118-110; 116-112;116-112, it's "Mayweather so much bigger than Pac. Pac is really a lightweight".

Make up your fcuking minds people

[ADP02]

that was 8 years ago lol less then a year before it all happened u still benefit from ped use 8 months later. that fight was in 07 08 right in the height of the questioning

No. The PEDs talk came up in 2009. Manny fought Mosley in 2011.

You Floyd fans need to all get in a room and have the same story because it certainly doesn't look good when you can't even get your stories straight of when Manny stopped using PEDs. Some said as soon as the Clottey fight it showed.


EDIT: Manny fought Mosley 4 years ago not 8 years ago like you said.




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[Ahmed_Ismail]

I have to agree with you that at WW, Floyd looks bigger than Floyd fans tend to say.

When you look at Floyd on fight night, he looks bigger. Not just against Manny but as a very good example, he was actually looking bigger and healthier looking than Mosley in that fight.

Look at Mosley when he fought Margarito or Cotto and look at him when he fought Floyd, HUGE difference in size, phyisque, facial appearance and stamina, the only difference was that this was the first time Mosley gets randomly tested, and he has history of using HGH and other steroids, so this debunks your theory, it wasn't Floyd who was big, Floyd looked the same like in the weigh in, it was Mosley who looked smaller than he normally looks, plus Foyd and Mosley have the same height and almost the same reach.

[Cinci Champ]

When Pac is knocking everyone out it's "but but but, Pac is the same size as Mayweather. Just look at his fight night weight" lol

The minute Pac gets beat soundly by the scores of 118-110; 116-112;116-112, it's "Mayweather so much bigger than Pac. Pac is really a lightweight".

Make up your fcuking minds people

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pac frame is not meant to hold the weight its holding for manny. those calves and everything else are from years of ped use you dont just get rid of it. its not from running up hills like roach says. you get cramps from having to much muscle growth after years of abuse as well another red flag. i will never know for sure but i think there is no question manny used ped in his monster reign where there is smoke there is fire. but that dont mean im saying i dont think floyd never did any i just think with manny it is beyond obvious

[YOU WILL LOSE]

Vitamins mixed with saltwater is not a steroid, it's a dam mix of vitamins, plus both fighters gave blood and urine on the same days, you can't withdraw blood right after the weigh in cuz the fighter is probably dehydrated, so it makes it dangerous. Pacquiao has definitley taken some kind of vitamin but he didn't tell the commission cuz he knew it won't show in the test, Floyd did it the safe way so that there's no controversy, he told the commission I'll take something and they said ok and the test results were negative, so it's not really a big deal.

of course no blood would be taken before the fight, thats the point. they would have known that. that is where you can manipulate things

use the saline merely as a dilutent to mask something else since they know it was only going to be urine. only being given a urine test after being issued a tue is a red flag sorry

[ADP02]

Look at Mosley when he fought Margarito or Cotto and look at him when he fought Floyd, HUGE difference in size, phyisque, facial appearance and stamina, the only difference was that this was the first time Mosley gets randomly tested, and he has history of using HGH and other steroids, so this debunks your theory, it wasn't Floyd who was big, Floyd looked the same like in the weigh in, it was Mosley who looked smaller than he normally looks, plus Foyd and Mosley have the same height and almost the same reach.

Mosley admitted to that before those fights ....

The point was that people were thinking and saying that Floyd was smaller and all that but in the end, he looked bigger than Mosley.

[ADP02]

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pac frame is not meant to hold the weight its holding for manny. those calves and everything else are from years of ped use you dont just get rid of it. its not from running up hills like roach says. you get cramps from having to much muscle growth after years of abuse as well another red flag. i will never know for sure but i think there is no question manny used ped in his monster reign where there is smoke there is fire. but that dont mean im saying i dont think floyd never did any i just think with manny it is beyond obvious

It used to be Manny's head but now it's his calves? Wow!

I have big calves. I'm older now and still do but that is an asset for certain sports and has helped me even now. My friends called my legs tree trunks and said that is why I can do what I do. I now have kids and took after me on that front. For the record, I never took PEDs.


Oh, you are sure about Manny taking PEDs and also sure about Floyd never doing it ..... how convenient.



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