Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: How Big a Winner Was Haymon?

[anonymous2.0]

I still don't understand why would a boxing fan, want this PBC thing to fail? How is it bad? It hasn't been long and they put some good cards with good fights. Not everything they do will be magical but it's boxing!

If Haymon was so bad for the sport his fighters would be suing HIM not other companies.

I don't know, I don't wish anything bad on anything boxing related. I really wished people knew more about the sport because most people are neophytes and like roger says they don't know ****.

Boxing fans are unique in that not only are they fans of the athletes but they are fans of networks. Unique, sorry I meant ******ed.

[bigdunny1]

I still don't understand why would a boxing fan, want this PBC thing to fail? How is it bad? It hasn't been long and they put some good cards with good fights. Not everything they do will be magical but it's boxing!

If Haymon was so bad for the sport his fighters would be suing HIM not other companies.

I don't know, I don't wish anything bad on anything boxing related. I really wished people knew more about the sport because most people are neophytes and like roger says they don't know ****.

Fighters have not complained because Haymon is overbidding to steal away fighters. Signing to Haymon means he will get you overpaid for easy fights. He forces his fighters to duck tough fights. Look at Khan he hasn't had a real fight in over 2 years. Look at who Wilder is fighting next and the bums he's been fighting for years. No doubt Haymon is good for fighters he avoids risky fights and uses his leverage to get overpaid for easy fights. Everybody knows that...But how is any of this good for boxing fans? I could care less if Danny Garcia gets paid over 1 mil to fight a bum like Salka. I only care about good fights and more often then not Haymon is the road block to good fights.

Haymon's end game is simple. He wants to build the PBC brand and then create his own boxing league like UFC and sell it to the highest network bidder. And PBC creating their own league where he has his own belts his fighters can only fight each other is not good for boxing. Haymon already refuses to work with other promoters and constantly forces his fighters to take fights nobody wants to see. If he was at least pitting all his best fighters against each other for amazing barn burner fights (which he easily could of made PBC be) I would give him a pass. But not only does he refuse to let his fighters face any of the top fighters outside his stable his own fighters don't fight the best in his stable. Why did Broner fight Molina instead of Danny Garcia? Why isn't Khan fighting Thurman? Why isn't Wilder fighting somebody with a pulse? If Haymon already has created a division in boxing why would you think if PBC becomes successful that it won't be harder to make the fights we all want to see? But who cares because look at the size of Broners purse lol

[SugarRaRobinson]

Yea bro thurman has a knockout % almost like GGG but they don't call him exciting. Im trying to get people to understand boxing is about RACE/COUNTRY/PRIDE. Hell we from america and can't even get the country behind us (black people)

Great point ! Same goes for Wilders KO % but u don't hear nothing of it . It is all about RACE/COUNTRY/PRIDE . Or Maybe simply PRIDE of SKIN COLOR

[Fetta]

Lets just keep a good 2015 going.

PBC shows are starting to pop up left and right and rumors of Sunday and Monday boxing has got me excited.

[-Johannes-]

Fighters have not complained because Haymon is overbidding to steal away fighters. Signing to Haymon means he will get you overpaid for easy fights. He forces his fighters to duck tough fights. Look at Khan he hasn't had a real fight in over 2 years. Look at who Wilder is fighting next and the bums he's been fighting for years. No doubt Haymon is good for fighters he avoids risky fights and uses his leverage to get overpaid for easy fights. Everybody knows that...But how is any of this good for boxing fans? I could care less if Danny Garcia gets paid over 1 mil to fight a bum like Salka. I only care about good fights and more often then not Haymon is the road block to good fights.

Haymon's end game is simple. He wants to build the PBC brand and then create his own boxing league like UFC and sell it to the highest network bidder. And PBC creating their own league where he has his own belts his fighters can only fight each other is not good for boxing. Haymon already refuses to work with other promoters and constantly forces his fighters to take fights nobody wants to see. If he was at least pitting all his best fighters against each other for amazing barn burner fights (which he easily could of made PBC be) I would give him a pass. But not only does he refuse to let his fighters face any of the top fighters outside his stable his own fighters don't fight the best in his stable. Why did Broner fight Molina instead of Danny Garcia? Why isn't Khan fighting Thurman? Why isn't Wilder fighting somebody with a pulse? If Haymon already has created a division in boxing why would you think if PBC becomes successful that it won't be harder to make the fights we all want to see? But who cares because look at the size of Broners purse lol

Everything you said in your first paragraph could be said about any other network or promoter.

Look man I'm going to be honest here, I love GGG I think his attitude is great for the sport but the level of opposition could be better. Sure it's exiting but si was Garcias KO over Salka. Do you think the casual fans knew Salka? They didn't just like they didn't know Monroe.

The second paragraph is based on your opinion and preconceived bias and like I said everything you wrote about certain PBC fighters fighting nobodies could be said about other fighters in other networks/promotional companies.

[bigdunny1]

Yea bro thurman has a knockout % almost like GGG but they don't call him exciting. Im trying to get people to understand boxing is about RACE/COUNTRY/PRIDE. Hell we from america and can't even get the country behind us (black people)

Everyone called Thurman exciting just like GGG up until the Bundu fight which was boring and he was booed because of it. His perception changed from that fight. If he KO'd Bundu and Guerrero just like GGG has been KO'ing people left and right the perception would not of changed. Boxing is a what have you done for me lately business more then about race. Nobody cared about filipino fighters before Paquiao burst on the scene. He aint white or black or Latino but in his heyday he grabbed all those fanbases because he was exciting and laid people out.

[Sweet Jones]

Wtf

According to the Bible, there was once a wicked man named Haman (pronounced ***8220;Haymon***8221 who ***8220;set his seat above all the princes that were with him. And all the king***8217;s servants bowed and reverenced Haman (Esther 3:1-2).***8221;

But let***8217;s not forget what eventually happened. In the end, ***8220;Haman was hung on a gallows that were fifty cubits [74 feet] high (Esther 7:9-10).***8221; And now, each year at Purim, people eat pastries called hamantasch to commemorate the occasion.

Now would be a good time to remind people that Hauser, one of the'premier' and most accomplished boxing writers in the world, seems to hinting at hanging one of, if not THE, most powerful figures in boxing.

Beyond the ridiculous invoking of religious imagery in a boxing hack job of an article, the racial undertones of this (of which Hauser is WAY too smart to NOT understand) is disconcerting.

Sad indeed.

[sicko]

It is a reason why Thomas Hauser and Steve Kim hates Haymon, Mayweather and anybody attached to them, I won't get into that but do the research and you will find answers. The other guy Gabrial Montoya seem to have been ran out of the Boxing World All Together So people are bitter because they're black balled and can't get credentials to big fights anymore so when you seen them taking shots on Twitter, Youtube and their Website that is usually the case which is why you see Steve Kim do this all the time Hauser just giving his opinion, nothing wrong with that

It is boxing writers who are choosing sides I guess and call themselves boycotting PBC lol But you're screwed if PBC does works out and this thing takes off and it becomes big and once again like the Mayweather vs Pacquiao you will be stuck on the outside looking in and doing your coverage from the Lobby of the MGM Grand because you can't get in.

Best of luck to Haymon and his PBC Venture, I'm rooting for it to work not because of Haymon, Haymon has his money he sold half of his Promotion to Live Nation years ago for a lot of money so he is fine Financially. This is great for THE FIGHTERS! For them to display their talents to the world on Network TV instead of being limited on Showtime or HBO and for them to also get Paid what they're Worth and not get low balled like Networks and Promoters have done in the past. If I was HBO and Arum I would hate Haymon also because he makes it hard for them to get the fights they use to get for CHEAP because he has driven the prices up for the fighters. Sure HBO and Top Rank might find that frustrating but the Men who are actually out doing the fighting, all of them seem to absolutely love it which is why you're not hearing fighters bash Haymon, only his competition!

[elishua F]

Thomas Hauser has "Floyd has a penchant for physically abusing women " scribbled on his wall. Every time I read this guy's articles I just picture a guy ****ing on his keyboard with tears running down his face.

He said he wants Haymon hanged from gallows for doing nothing except bringing boxing back to the spotlight. He also jabbed 50 cent and Jay Z... something tells me this guy doesn't appreciate the "brothers" (Al, 50, Jay) trying to take over the sport..but when it was Arum, Oscar and DiBella it was all good.

These fans that sh-t on Al also seem to have something personal against the "brothers". They said PBC don't have exciting matchups, but they drool everytime GGG fights a cab driver on HBO.

Broner-Molina had the makings of fireworks, Molina just didn't show up.
Guerrero- Thurman was explosive.
Anything with Porter is entertaining.
Khan-Algieri is a chess match for the boxing purists.
Dirrel-DeGale is a great matchup.

This is a great resume considering PBC is brand new. Any boxing fan wishing on the downfall of Haymon is no boxing fan at all.

[sicko]

Fighters have not complained because Haymon is overbidding to steal away fighters. Signing to Haymon means he will get you overpaid for easy fights. He forces his fighters to duck tough fights. Look at Khan he hasn't had a real fight in over 2 years. Look at who Wilder is fighting next and the bums he's been fighting for years. No doubt Haymon is good for fighters he avoids risky fights and uses his leverage to get overpaid for easy fights. Everybody knows that...But how is any of this good for boxing fans? I could care less if Danny Garcia gets paid over 1 mil to fight a bum like Salka. I only care about good fights and more often then not Haymon is the road block to good fights.

Haymon's end game is simple. He wants to build the PBC brand and then create his own boxing league like UFC and sell it to the highest network bidder. And PBC creating their own league where he has his own belts his fighters can only fight each other is not good for boxing. Haymon already refuses to work with other promoters and constantly forces his fighters to take fights nobody wants to see. If he was at least pitting all his best fighters against each other for amazing barn burner fights (which he easily could of made PBC be) I would give him a pass. But not only does he refuse to let his fighters face any of the top fighters outside his stable his own fighters don't fight the best in his stable. Why did Broner fight Molina instead of Danny Garcia? Why isn't Khan fighting Thurman? Why isn't Wilder fighting somebody with a pulse? If Haymon already has created a division in boxing why would you think if PBC becomes successful that it won't be harder to make the fights we all want to see? But who cares because look at the size of Broners purse lol

So fighters shouldn't want more money then, they should just make what ever you want them to make and just shut up and fight who you want them to fight? Fans are extremely Ignorant and comments like this is PROOF who the *** am I, you or any other FAN to tell a fighter what he is or is not worth.

Nobody is stealing anything, he is giving fighters Options, how the *** is that Stealing Fighters if he makes fighters better offers than what their previous promoters was offering to join his team