Is Freddie Roach the most overrated trainer of all time?

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  • SnakeVen0m
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
    Honestly the joke coach gets too much credit,
    He has been lucky he got to train some great fighters like Pacquiao, Khan and JCC jr (in recent years.)

    No doubt Freddie is great at preparing his guys for fights but in terms of being a good strategist where do you think he stands?

    It seems like on fight night if things don't go his way their is no plan B. Most recently against TBE, they had absolutely no plan B and Manny looked frustrated.

    What your thoughts?
    I really wanted to listen to your reasoning but after reading this, I had to stop.

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    • juandabomb
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      #12
      absolutely way overrated, look at prodvodnikov & shimings skill set.he can't develop fighters right.he is a fraud and he showed it versus mayweather. roach didnt know what to do so he let buboy take over. smh

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      • Easy Work.
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        #13
        Hes overrated, not that hes a bad trainer but guys like Robert Garcia and Virgil Hunter deserve trainer of the year.

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          #14
          Oh, well using the logic of "his fighters lose" that everyone seems to be responding, he does suck. I mean, it isn't like Rios and Maidana don't lose fights... oh wait.

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          • SeekDaGreat
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            #15
            Originally posted by juandabomb
            absolutely way overrated, look at prodvodnikov & shimings skill set.he can't develop fighters right.he is a fraud and he showed it versus mayweather. roach didnt know what to do so he let buboy take over. smh
            Sometimes you have to work with what you got. No one was going to transform Ruslan into Floyd.

            Shang Hai has only fought a handful of times under Roach. Bad examples.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              Oh, well using the logic of "his fighters lose" that everyone seems to be responding, he does suck. I mean, it isn't like Rios and Maidana don't lose fights... oh wait.
              Marcos Maidana lost to mayweather, he still probably beats almost every welterweight including manny

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                #17
                Originally posted by Easy Work.
                Marcos Maidana lost to mayweather, he still probably beats almost every welterweight including manny
                Manny lost to Mayweather too... What's the difference with Manny and Maidana? And L O L at you thinking Maidana beats every other WW including Manny lmao. One armed Manny would KO Maidana. Floyd struggles with a C class fighter and you think he's good, sad.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Manny lost to Mayweather too... What's the difference with Manny and Maidana? And L O L at you thinking Maidana beats every other WW including Manny lmao. One armed Manny would KO Maidana.
                  The difference is maidana could beat mannys ass too lol

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Easy Work.
                    The difference is maidana could beat mannys ass too lol
                    So Maidana is like Broner, taking credit for Floyds wins?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                      So Maidana is like Broner, taking credit for Floyds wins?
                      Name 5 welterweights that could beat maidana

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