Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Monroe Draws Audience of More than 1.3 Million

[Cuban Linx]

The people who said PBC would hurt HBO are looking foolish by the day. Not only has PBC not made a single dent in HBO's ratings the opposite has happened and HBO's ratings have gone up and they are having one of their best years in a long time. The real people who are hurt by PBC is Showtime. HBO was ahead of the curve and were tired of Haymon trying to leverage his stable by forcing HBO into buying terrible fights and as a result cut ties and boycotted Haymon years earlier before PBC. This lead to Showtime totally selling out and making a deal with the devil.

Showtime hitched their wagon to Haymon and damaged relationships with all the other top fighters and promoters along the way. They bid against themselves and overpaid for blatant garbage fights just to keep Haymon happy and to continue having the sole rights to his fighters. In the process they had a horrendous 2014 that ruined their reputation with fights like Garcia vs Salka again just to keep Haymon happy and he repaid them by stabbing them in the back and still taking all those fighters from Showtime to PBC network tv. lmao

Since the first PBC show not only has the amount of boxing cards falling off a cliff on Showtime but the ratings for the few boxing content they have left have been some of the worst in years. The one big fight they had since PBC was Chavez Jr which was a total disaster. Not only did he lose in humiliating fashion killing his worth going forward but the ratings were wiped out by HBO because they decided to go head to head with the already announced Mattyhsee fight. And this is not even mentioning that after the fight there was a mini riot with angry Mexican fans throwing beers at Chavez all captured during the telecast. Showtime basically has Mayweather for one more fight and nothing else significant.

PBC put the dagger in the heart for Showtime boxing.

Keep in mind that PBC is still in its infancy. There is a chance that they could still overtake HBO in a couple of years (if they're still around). I like what they're doing.

But Showtime is a total waste right now. They may as well get rid of Shobox, and just put the prospects on display for Showtime.

[Pigeons]

Why would people not watch HBO when there is no PBC on?

Put Broner-Porter opposite Kovalev-Mohammedi and see what happens to HBO's ratings.

In fact, HBO rejected Lemeieux-Ndam because they didn't want to compete with PBC on June 20.

[daggum]

Why would people not watch HBO when there is no PBC on?

Put Broner-Porter opposite Kovalev-Mohammedi and see what happens to HBO's ratings.

In fact, HBO rejected Lemeieux-Ndam because they didn't want to compete with PBC on June 20.

uh no. get your facts straight. they didn't want to compete with ward-paul smith on BET

[Scipio2009]

The ratings were significantly lower for the rebroadcast of the Floyd fight then the Canelo fight. Ratings spiked by almost double for the Canelo fight. I know you hate to admit it but Canelo is star who attracts a ton of viewers and this was his first NON-PPV fight in 2 years and his return to HBO. That fight was going to do monster ratings with or without Floyd.

comparing the average broadcast figure of Mayweather-Pacquiao to the peak number of the Canelo fight is playing fast and lose with the numbers; nice try, I guess.

Canelo is a star; the degree to which he is a star is what is in flux.

The re-air of Mayweather-Pacquiao was a massive lead-in for Alvarez-Kirkland; if there was a source to find the rating for that final quarter hour of Mayweather-Pacquiao and the first quarter hour of Alvarez-Kirkland, the case could that Alvarez was able to bring in {X} amount of viewers and grow that audience to [Y] over the course of his fight.

[Scipio2009]

People are still trying to use that excuse to discredit Canelo. If his ratings had anything to do with the May-Pac replay then why did Showtime get such horrible ratings for the Jim Gray interview with Mayweather (318k viewers) and for Inside Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Epilogue(304k viewers)? Their ratings actually went down after the replay of the fight.

... Showtime retained near the entire audience that tuned in to their competing re-broadcast of Mayweather-Pacquiao, for the full interview and basically through the epilogue. again, try to secure complete information before making a statement.

If Showtime had been the sole entity allowed to air the re-broadcast, they would've done a massive rating for the fight, and then would've bled over to the interview and epilogue (having a live fight competing with first-run taped programming would've likely taken some of the audience, but I doubt that it would've gone to zero).

[krazyn8tive]

canelo only got that number thanks to Floyd other then that It would have been around 1.3mill ggg needs stronger opponents to get more views obviously the hype of him knocking everyone out is catching on to the casual fans but how long can he fight cab drivers before ppl catch him on his bluff

The irony of this post is breathtaking

[Eastcoast]

I was actually hoping to see higher numbers given the momentum of the Klitschko & Alvarez cards. This card still did under the Curtis Stevens fight. That said, this card pretty much falls into the HBO boxing rating's baseline of 1.1-1.3 mill. In terms of marketing, HBO should've had this fight on one of Time Warner's basic cable outlets like truTV, TNT, or TBS.

That tells me Golovkin's popularity isn't really growing that much but is holding steady. He needs to fight a big name star to pull in more casuals. I don't know if Ward or Lara would push Golovkin's ratings over 1.5mill, but I would hope so.

Mayweather never really started crossing over in status until he got the Gatti fight (thanks to Gatti's trilogy with Ward).

[Scipio2009]

The people who said PBC would hurt HBO are looking foolish by the day. Not only has PBC not made a single dent in HBO's ratings the opposite has happened and HBO's ratings have gone up and they are having one of their best years in a long time. The real people who are hurt by PBC is Showtime. HBO was ahead of the curve and were tired of Haymon trying to leverage his stable by forcing HBO into buying terrible fights and as a result cut ties and boycotted Haymon years earlier before PBC. This lead to Showtime totally selling out and making a deal with the devil.

Showtime hitched their wagon to Haymon and damaged relationships with all the other top fighters and promoters along the way. They bid against themselves and overpaid for blatant garbage fights just to keep Haymon happy and to continue having the sole rights to his fighters. In the process they had a horrendous 2014 that ruined their reputation with fights like Garcia vs Salka again just to keep Haymon happy and he repaid them by stabbing them in the back and still taking all those fighters from Showtime to PBC network tv. lmao

Since the first PBC show not only has the amount of boxing cards falling off a cliff on Showtime but the ratings for the few boxing content they have left have been some of the worst in years. The one big fight they had since PBC was Chavez Jr which was a total disaster. Not only did he lose in humiliating fashion killing his worth going forward but the ratings were wiped out by HBO because they decided to go head to head with the already announced Mattyhsee fight. And this is not even mentioning that after the fight there was a mini riot with angry Mexican fans throwing beers at Chavez all captured during the telecast. Showtime basically has Mayweather for one more fight and nothing else significant.

PBC put the dagger in the heart for Showtime boxing.

what does HBO have to fill the rest of the year's fight calendar?

Klistchko-Fury is an exciting fight, as is the exciting likely Cotto-Canelo fight come the Fall. Beyond that, what is there honestly to look forward to?

Kovalev-Stevenson isn't happening on HBO, Manny Pacquiao is basically done for the year (barring some miracle recovery of a torn shoulder), Juan Manuel Marquez is almost done with boxing, and Golovkin is likely to batter another softy while he keeps vigil. Having basically all the featherweights could make for fun fights, but that's about it.

Showtime has Deontay Wilder(c), WBC Heavyweight Champion, for a second fight this year (likely a third fight if Povetkin wins the eliminator), Chavez Jr (as he rebuilds at 168, still having name value), and Kell Brook(c), IBF Welterweight Champion (continuing to build his profile in the US) all basically fighting exclusively on Showtime. To that, you can also add Adonis Stevenson(c), WBC/lineal light heavyweight champion of the world [apparently, to have a fight on PPV in Canada, the fight can't be broadcast on network TV in the US; leaving ESPN and Showtime as the only real outlets to maximize the money on a big fight with], to that mix.

And then you've got the rumored 200 or so fighters affiliated, all looking for fights and big fights, all of which can't be filled on just the NBC/CBS/ESPN/Sp1keTV and affiliated platforms.

Between Wilder/Chavez Jr/Brook/Stevenson, Showtime is positioned to air at least 7 shows featuring those guys (Wilder-Molina, Wilder-Povetkin/Perez, Chavez Jr-Bute, Brook-Gavin, possibly Mayweather-Brook, Brook-Khan next year, Stevenson-Fonfora II, Stevenson-Pascal, etc), all before counting any Haymon/PBC matchups (Marcos Maidana's return fight,etc).

methinks that thee doth protest too much.

[Mitchell Kane]

Showtime has Deontay Wilder(c), WBC Heavyweight Champion, for a second fight this year

Chavez Jr (as he rebuilds at 168, still having name value),

Kell Brook(c), IBF Welterweight Champion (continuing to build his profile in the US)

all basically fighting exclusively on

Look at Scipio ... grasping at straws.

[TheThirdEye]