Comments Thread For: The Big Lie

[baddog]

Great analysis, and great article.
Plz stay on top of the law suit outcome>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[soul_survivor]

Why should that have led them to turn down the use of an accepted substance prior to the fight anyway?

As a Pacquiao fan, I'm not going to be blinded. Fact is, Pacquiao should not have ticked no on that form, when he and his second, in this case Koncz, knew full well that lying on the form could be viewed as a criminal offence. NO matter the mind games they wanted to play.

Having said all that, I do agree with you and Thomas Hauser, once again an excellent article, explains it very well, if a substance in allowed under WADA and NSAC...why should Pacquiao have to disclose it's use to the Commission?

But the fact is and it's been written about by numerous sports writers in the last week or so, that this was the ultimate capitalist scam. Everyone knew the fight was happening a minimum of 3 years too late, everyone knew that a $100 price tag was ridiculous and everyone knew the pre-fight hype was more about the money involved than the actual quality of the contest we were about to witness. It was a sham, a scam and a dupe. It's the very modern personification of the capitilisation of sports.

[WESS]

Let Pac pay his taxes in peace...

That ship sunk weeks ago... GGG is doing well though with a bunch of new fans!

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

floyd won the fight, pac lost and acted like a sore loser, lets move on

[IMDAZED]

As a Pacquiao fan, I'm not going to be blinded. Fact is, Pacquiao should not have ticked no on that form, when he and his second, in this case Koncz, knew full well that lying on the form could be viewed as a criminal offence. NO matter the mind games they wanted to play.

Having said all that, I do agree with you and Thomas Hauser, once again an excellent article, explains it very well, if a substance in allowed under WADA and NSAC...why should Pacquiao have to disclose it's use to the Commission?

1. Because they are separate en******.

2. Pacquiao didn't disclose his injury to either one.

[ADP02]

The picture under you post with Pacquiao's hands in the air after allegdly fighting 9 rounds with a "torn rotator cuff" says a lot about the "injury"

Floyd said he had the same injury against Castillo and used it as an excuse for his poor performance. Floyd lifted his arms while holding the belts.

But

I'm sure you Floyd fans believed all that because Floyd said so.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd said he had the same injury against Castillo and used it as an excuse for his poor performance. Floyd lifted his arms while holding the belts.

But

I'm sure you Floyd fans believed all that because Floyd said so.

why are you bringing up Floyd/Castillo? The picture clearly shows Manny doing something that a person with a legitimate torn rotator cuff wouldn't do.

Why is it so hard for you to accept Manny makes himself look like a liar?

[Main Source]

This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that...

Floyd Mayweather's so-called "victory" over Manny Pacquiao is a BIG LIE!!!

Did you even care to read the whole article? The blame is on Pacquiao and somewhat the commission. Mayweather did his part: beating him. It was already apparent in the first 3 rounds that Mayweather was going to have an easy night.

I hope Pacquiao and his team gets sued for his entire purse.

[BoxingFan82]

Watch the replay of the fight. Here are the facts:

• There was no apparent discussion of the injury in Manny's corner between rounds. Significant rotator cuff injuries are usually very painful. If Pacquiao had suffered one and it was preventing him from fighting, it's incredulous to believe that there would be no mention of it in the corner. Fighters complain about lesser ailments to their corners all the time.
  
• Pain aside, a significant rotator cuff injury would normally limit range of motion. Manny was throwing hard shots and there was no noticeable indication that he was incapable of full range of motion.
  
• No attention was paid to Manny's shoulder in the corner. I didn't even see ice being applied, which would be the obvious way to try to alleviate the inflammation during the fight.
  
• There were no times in the fight at which point Manny seemed to grimace in pain. Again, significant rotator cuff injuries are typically quite painful.
  
• If Manny claims he exacerbated his injury in the third round, why did the three rounds in which he threw the highest number of power punches come after the third round?
  
• Manny made no mention of an injury to Max Kellerman in the post-fight interview. Instead, he complained that he couldn't punch Floyd because Floyd refused to stand in front of him like a punching bag.

This doesn't mean there wasn't an injury of some sort, but lots of fighters enter the ring with latent and chronic injuries that prevent them from being 100% and anybody who buys the story coming out of Pacquiao's camp that he was fighting with a significant rotator cuff injury that prevented him from winning is in my opinion a fool.

The above facts are simply inconsistent with the idea that Pacquiao entered the ring with a significant injury or suffered one during the course of the fight.

[soul_survivor]

1. Because they are separate en******.

2. Pacquiao didn't disclose his injury to either one.

what are separate en******?

And you clearly haven't read this or any other article concerning the fight, because Pacquiao had to ask permission to use the medication he was using, which meant getting in touch with both USADA and NSAC. But this happened a few weeks before the right and for whatever reason, was not mentioned in the pre-fight form.