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  • The Big Dunn
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    #161
    Originally posted by twosweethooks
    He did look good in the beginning dunn, but at round 4 things changed when he hurt Jr and was throwing bombs then abruptly backed away ! The tear worsened, any sane person KNOWS it did and didn't GET BETTER ,,,OH enough of acting DUMB ! I would say the same for JR.

    You and I would be good in the parts of the movie DUMB and DUMBER,,,YOU are the ,,,,hahahahhaha,,,,,DUMBER hahahahahhhhhahhahah.

    He backed away because Floyd covered up and he was hitting his arms and elbows. He did hurt Floyd with that punch-Mosley hurt Floyd far worse in the 2nd rd twice-floyd absorbed it-just as he did the Mosley bombs-and then kept fighting.

    Manny just lost to a better man and it hurts you. Why, I have no idea. Grow up and accept you can't always get what you want.

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    • T18Z
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      #162
      Originally posted by g-wane
      yeah Pac holding up his hands in victory at the end of the fight !!SMH
      Anyone that has a torn rotator cuff is NOT going to be able to raise their arms, especially as hard as pac was throwing the right hand, he should have been in anguish!! But because pac is a god he can take the pain right?! except that pain of losing !!!
      Are you a doctor? No, so give it a rest acting like you know better.

      Significant tear in rotator cuff, has had surgery, these are facts. The rest, including how much it affected him, are speculation. Now shut up.

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      • Heavyfist
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        #163
        Lot so great information here. Like again how Floyd commonly uses PEDS but negotiations clauses in his USADA contracts that allows him to get a doctors note after he is caught, and suppress the positive test.

        It's funny that the use of these shady clauses was denied by Pacquiao. Looks really bad for Floyd. But I'm not surprised he's the one that uses PEDS. Kinda bombshell information.

        Also interesting is, that the medication that Pac wanted to take is not on the banned substances list, so on what possible grounds could they deny it for Pac? Seems like they did what Floyd wanted them to do, and are now making a big deal out of a small technicality in their paper work.

        After all, as the article proves, this is the same group of people that caught Floyd lying big time, and repeatedly, to their faces in a hearing, and still let it go. When confronted face to face with Floyd lying to them, they don't care.

        Yet, when Pac asks for medicine for a pre existing minor injury that he doesn't want to aggravate, they claim its perjury? So fugging dumb.

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        • Heavyfist
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          #164
          Originally posted by MrRolltide91
          all they had to do was say "yes" on the questionnaire
          Why would he say yes if the injury is healed?

          Pac knows it is in a vulnerable state and prone to reinjury, but that is different than having a full blown injury.

          I don't understand why that is so difficult to understand.

          What Pac did is completely understandable, and a manufactured controversy by NASC to deny Pac a legal and unbanned medicine.

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          • -Johannes-
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            #165
            Originally posted by BrometheusBob
            Hell no. We would still be hearing about how Pac *****ed out of the fight because of a 'fake' injury. And then Pac fans would be talking ish about how May doesn't want it with a 100% pac.

            Not to suggest that fighting injured was the right thing to do to. Afterall, even with Toradol Pac would likely have damaged the cuff and required surgery (but at least then we would know pac had what he/his camp believed would allow him to fight through the injury, though that may very well not have been enough).
            Only ******s would be claiming a "fake" injury. When a fight is postponed most of the time it's for two things. One, a legit injury and two weight issues which Pacquiao has no issues with.

            Be real, if Pacquiao had said you know what I'm not 100% and needed to postpone the fight NO ONE would be bashing him. It's more likely that the majority of the public would call Mayweather a b*tch if he had called the fight off had Pacquiao postponed.

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            • wlliam
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              #166
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              lol are you're an idiot. Anything they say in camp shoud be taken with a grain of salt. Camps dont disclose the truth to there opponents or the media.

              Are you that dumb to think, they will say to the media who btw are the ones hyping the fight that pac was injured? Use your common sense, it's kind a rusty.
              Youre
              speculating, im going off the information provided in the lead up and aftermath of the fight...who is the idiot now??

              May 1st
              Roach: "we are 100%"
              Pac: "im a 100%..Floyds getn KOd"

              May 2nd post fight
              Pac: "my shoulder was injured"
              Roach: "uh huh"

              Son, ur grounded!!

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              • Heavyfist
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                #167
                Originally posted by -Johannes-
                Only ******s would be claiming a "fake" injury. When a fight is postponed most of the time it's for two things. One, a legit injury and two weight issues which Pacquiao has no issues with.

                Be real, if Pacquiao had said you know what I'm not 100% and needed to postpone the fight NO ONE would be bashing him. It's more likely that the majority of the public would call Mayweather a b*tch if he had called the fight off had Pacquiao postponed.

                Pac obviously made a huge mistake. But considering the fact legal and approved medicine temporarily fixes the problem, it makes 100% sense that Pac would not postpone.

                All of this boils down to, NSAC need to explain themselves why they denied Pac medicine that is legal and approved and widely used by many boxers?

                So they have manufactured a fake controversy to defend themselves.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Heavyfist
                  Pac obviously made a huge mistake. But considering the fact legal and approved medicine temporarily fixes the problem, it makes 100% sense that Pac would not postpone.

                  All of this boils down to, NSAC need to explain themselves why they denied Pac medicine that is legal and approved and widely used by many boxers?

                  So they have manufactured a fake controversy to defend themselves.
                  They did-because he checked no on the form. Manny was honest when he filled the form out so NSAC did what it was supposed to do.

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                  • AllBoxingAD
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Heavyfist
                    Why would he say yes if the injury is healed?

                    Pac knows it is in a vulnerable state and prone to reinjury, but that is different than having a full blown injury.

                    I don't understand why that is so difficult to understand.

                    What Pac did is completely understandable, and a manufactured controversy by NASC to deny Pac a legal and unbanned medicine.
                    If he is healed, why would he need medication to treat an INJURY right before the fight?

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                    • BrometheusBob.
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      They did-because he checked no on the form. Manny was honest when he filled the form out so NSAC did what it was supposed to do.
                      Why should that have led them to turn down the use of an accepted substance prior to the fight anyway?

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