Comments Thread For: The Big Lie

[hhs661]

The commission did their jobs.

Koncz and Manny, by filling out the forms, being honest, disclosing their "injury", did not.

[BoxingTrav]

Well one thing is clear. Pac entered with a torn rotator cuff before the fight. That is now a fact.

Pac fought with one effective hand and gave Floyd all he can handle.

Question is why nsac didn't allow Pac to use the numbing agent When it's practically legal, and you don't really even need to ask permission to use it. Knowing that, Why did nsac deny I legal medication?

Plot thickens.. So much back room drama and conspiracy in here.. Very Shady indeed.

Please point to me where Manny showed he couldn't use the right arm. Please also refute that Arum said Manny has had this injury since the Oscar fight.

Did Manny not sign off that he was not injured, so is it not plausible for the NSAC to refuse to give shots to a man who claims he's uninjured?

[Robbie Barrett]

The whole dynamics of how he fights changes with only one effective hand. Even if he had good feet. What he want to do or perform with only one hand made him limited and prevent him and executing his moves.

Put it this way, a basketball player can do a layup with the left and right hand. If his left was injured. He cans till run and be agile, but he is left to move from the right to do a right layup shot coz he becomes limited and that actually changes the dynamics of how the player plays ball.

Imagine a soccer player with one good leg. Even if he is very talented, he loses a lot of his moves and prevents him from performing great. That soccer player becomes limited.

To those who say, wtf he still uses his right hand during the fight. Yeah he did, doesn't mean it has the right pop or sting it used to deliver. And the fact Pac was hurting even affects his ring focus coz he have to block out the pain while he is fighting.

The fact his normal punch stats was way below his normal, tells us he really was nursing a shoulder pain throughout the fight, and his right punches didn't have the zing or pop it normally should have had.

Pacqiao - "when he come in i counter"


Didn't any of you hear that when Kellerman asked you knew how Mayweather would fight and he should do something to stop him? Pacquiao and Roach's gameplan was to counter. Didn't Roach say a few weeks before that Manny isn't going to fall into Maweathers traps. This is why Pacquiao just stood in front of Floyd half the fight, he was trying to reverse roles and counter the counter-puncher. Explains his low punch output and the **** fight.

[Rath]

Please point to me where Manny showed he couldn't use the right arm. Please also refute that Arum said Manny has had this injury since the Oscar fight.

Did Manny not sign off that he was not injured, so is it not plausible for the NSAC to refuse to give shots to a man who claims he's uninjured?

it is well known that Floyd hands are injured. so do you see him using his hands when fighting.

Did Floyd checked those yes box on the NSAC questionaire?

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn believed Pac shoulder injury was fake even with a well documented surgery.

But he believed Floyd was randomly drug tested by USADA even without video evidence of it.

Just like Webb

Floyd fan logic at its best.

Dunn gave reasons why he believes Manny' shoulder injury was fake, something Humean wouldn't address. I welcome any reasonable dissenting opinion.

I never saw video of Manny taking VADA tests for Rios or Bradley, but I didn't say he wasn't tested. I wouldn't expect Floyd's team to record him getting tested. I was surprised Manny's team did as well. Neither had before, even with the 24/7 and All Access shows.

Hopefully, you will mature into an adult that learns to just accept it when you do not get what you want.

Besides, ****ting on Floyd only makes Manny look worse since he so easily defeated Manny.

Lucky for you, other really ****** pac fans, Floyd haters, Floyd's bank, the IRS, and floyd's accountants, there will a rematch where Floyd makes another $100 mil for the same outcome.

[Spoon23]

You're one of the people saying USADA, NSAC, Bayless, Judges etc were in Mayweathers pocket. Don't accuse people of making dumb accusations when you're a master of it.

Lol common sense is not that common to you.

A licensed practitioner won't risk there education for money or fame. We live in America were medical malpractice can disbar you or even get you imprisoned. Think about that than being blinded by hate. Truth hurts Floyd couldn't handle a one armed Pac.

No need for a sequel. 2 handed Pac smokes him.

[Rath]

Dunn gave reasons why he believes Manny' shoulder injury was fake, something Humean wouldn't address. I welcome any reasonable dissenting opinion.

I never saw video of Manny taking VADA tests for Rios or Bradley, but I didn't say he wasn't tested. I wouldn't expect Floyd's team to record him getting tested. I was surprised Manny's team did as well. Neither had before, even with the 24/7 and All Access shows.

Hopefully, you will mature into an adult that learns to just accept it when you do not get what you want.

Besides, ****ting on Floyd only makes Manny look worse since he so easily defeated Manny.

Lucky for you, other really ****** pac fans, Floyd haters, Floyd's bank, the IRS, and floyd's accountants, there will a rematch where Floyd makes another $100 mil for the same outcome.

Lol, keep that game dunn.

No video evidence dunn believed

well documented surgery - it's fake

Floyd fan logic

[Spoon23]

Please point to me where Manny showed he couldn't use the right arm. Please also refute that Arum said Manny has had this injury since the Oscar fight.

Did Manny not sign off that he was not injured, so is it not plausible for the NSAC to refuse to give shots to a man who claims he's uninjured?

To begin with it's not an illegal substance. It's like water you can drink water without asking permission from nsac.

It's not in there list of band substance, but all of a sudden it's like Pac wasn't allowed to drink water (taradol) coz they just wanted him not to.

As the writer said, it is not an illegal substance, there is no performance benefit with that drug. You don't even need to ask permission. You can take it as you wish, but on this night. It wasn't allowed.

Operation demolition job in full effect I guess.

[Phil Ivey]

They concealed that because they didn't want Mayweather finding out about it.

Floyd of course already knew because he had spies in the camp, but since they were cleared to use the medication anyway, why would they bother mentioning the injury? There was no benefit to them...until of course NSAC went super-tight on them banning water vitamins and the toradol shot, when according to Pacquiao they had never been so restrictive before.

lol what? This completely contradicts what Arum said about Pacquiao being 100% going into the fight in a recent interview.

[Spoon23]

Please point to me where Manny showed he couldn't use the right arm. Please also refute that Arum said Manny has had this injury since the Oscar fight.

To those who say, wtf he still uses his right hand during the fight. Yeah he did, doesn't mean it has the right pop or sting it used to deliver. And the fact Pac was hurting even affects his ring focus coz he have to block out the pain while he is fighting.

The fact his normal punch stats was way below his normal, tells us he really was nursing a shoulder pain throughout the fight, and his right punches didn't have the zing or pop it normally should have had.

He did punch with his right hand doesn't mean it was frequent and with the right pop it used to have. The snap was not there and that definitely affected his ring performance.