Comments Thread For: The Big Lie

[The Big Dunn]

You are not serious?

I may not always agree with you, but I always respect you as a poster. On this one, we need not go back and forth.

Manny is a liar. Plain and simple. The man lied on the form. The man is so insincere and dishonest that he grabbed his biceps before Koncz whispered shoulder in his ear at the presser. Bob had to correct Freddie as to when the injury supposedly happened during the presser. Why does your adviser have to tell you what is hurt? The man forgot to mention the "injury" to Max after the fight, his corner forgot to ask him about the "injury" during the fight and his trainer kept telling him during the fight, most importantly after rounds 5, 9 and 11, to keep throwing combinations, something I doubt he would've done had his fighter truly been injured.

The man lost because he Floyd is significantly better than him. He stopped throwing not because he was hurt, but because he didn't like eating right hands and couldn't consistently find angles/spots to land.

If you disagree, fine with me.

Did you read the article ?

Yes, I did. Nothing from Hauser has made me change my mind.

At yesterday's Bradley-Vargas conference, Arum reiterated that it was an injury from 2008.

Team Pacquiao needs to get their story straight.

To Humean-this is the reason I will always believe Manny is lying about this. It is now 16 days after the fight and Hauser still has a different version of when the injury occurred than the promoter-who needs to clarify the "injury" date in preparation to defend his company and his fighter against those lawsuits (frivolous IMO) regarding this fight.

[IMDAZED]

Or maybe, just maybe you should take anything Bob Arum says with a pinch of salt.

I do. I take what Hauser says with a pinch of it too. Smells like Team Pacquiao needs to get their story straight.

[-PBP-]

I don't get these tards. Other than the fact that Manny has no chance to win and never did, they are demanding a rematch between two past it fighters who have strung them out for six years and made over $200 million between the two of them. It's like you guys are happy rewarding bad behavior.

It's like they are screaming "I hate you Floyd. Please take my money again, and again and again"

[The Big Dunn]

I don't get these tards. Other than the fact that Manny has no chance to win and never did, they are demanding a rematch between two past it fighters who have strung them out for six years and made over $200 million between the two of them. It's like you guys are happy rewarding bad behavior.

It's like they are screaming "I hate you Floyd. Please take my money again, and again and again"

Exactly. I can't understand it myself. These fools-Manny diehards and Floyd uber haters-are going to end up making him somewhere between $350- $400 MILLION dollars simply because they can't stand it that he is much better than Manny.

Bob Arum must have to wear a depends because he ****s and pees from giggling so much when he counts how much he made off the same ****** people.

[Lester Tutor]

this video explains the lie all too perfectly...it's impossible to refute it when contradictions and fallacies are in the air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8AIFD7nLXE

[IMDAZED]

I don't get these tards. Other than the fact that Manny has no chance to win and never did, they are demanding a rematch between two past it fighters who have strung them out for six years and made over $200 million between the two of them. It's like you guys are happy rewarding bad behavior.

It's like they are screaming "I hate you Floyd. Please take my money again, and again and again"

They're hoping Manny makes them enough for them to come knocking on his door and asking him to toss them a few pesos.

[Humean]

I may not always agree with you, but I always respect you as a poster. On this one, we need not go back and forth.

Manny is a liar. Plain and simple. The man lied on the form. The man is so insincere and dishonest that he grabbed his biceps before Koncz whispered shoulder in his ear at the presser. Bob had to correct Freddie as to when the injury supposedly happened during the presser. Why does your adviser have to tell you what is hurt? The man forgot to mention the "injury" to Max after the fight, his corner forgot to ask him about the "injury" during the fight and his trainer kept telling him during the fight, most importantly after rounds 5, 9 and 11, to keep throwing combinations, something I doubt he would've done had his fighter truly been injured.

The man lost because he Floyd is significantly better than him. He stopped throwing not because he was hurt, but because he didn't like eating right hands and couldn't consistently find angles/spots to land.

If you disagree, fine with me.

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Pacquiao had surgery on his shoulder and the surgeon says he had a "significant tear". Pacquiao was injured, it is plain. To deny any of this is pure crazy.

The result of the fight might not have been any different if Pacquiao had a healthy shoulder but in the actual real fight they had Pacquiao was injured.

[SthPaw]

It doesn't matter how much this story is elaborated on, most fans will simply continue to believe whatever suits their outlook.

If there was a casual fan only concerned with Floyd you made them read this it would not make a blind bit of difference to them. They will still tell you their same old angle that Manny is a liar and Floyd simply beat him. The doctor was paid to lie and his surgery was a smokescreen etc...

On the other hand if there is a casual fan only interested in Manny and you showed them this it would not change anything for them either. They would just tell you it supports their same old angle that Manny did not deserve to lose, he was one armed and was sabotaged by the powers that be and Floyd and Vegas where all in on it.

Articles that elaborate on the matter may be a ton more reliable than listening to off the fly comments from Arum/Floyd/Manny/Malignaggi etc...But in the long run people will still only chose to think whatever they want.

In my opinion, the fight should not have happened when it did. It is easy to say but still...I recognise Floyd as the winner of the fight they did have, I am not dis*****g the winner at all, but I believe in the injury too. I try and look at it down the middle and that is what I see.

[V.WEBB]

I don't believe the injury.

You can't have a torn rotator cuff and punch as hard as Manny did.

Simple and plain, end of.

His crotch was hurting and still is, that much we know.

But torn rotator cuff? With some of the big shots he threw and landed and missed.

And showed NO SIGNS of injury.

Didn't say NOTHING to Roach in the corner.

Roach NEVER asked him about it?

Please.

The gig is up.

Take your millions and your embarrassing loss and chalk it up.

But the constant whining and story changing?

Yea...sure.

[The Big Dunn]

Pacquiao had surgery on his shoulder and the surgeon says he had a "significant tear". Pacquiao was injured, it is plain. To deny any of this is pure crazy.

The result of the fight might not have been any different if Pacquiao had a healthy shoulder but in the actual real fight they had Pacquiao was injured.

I would give this more consideration if not for the fact Bob has used his personal connections with doctors to give Manny unnecessary medical attention before.

In 2012, Manny was ok to fight in May, when he and TR thought Floyd was going to jail in May. When the court extended that to June so he could fight in May, Bob took Manny to his daughter in laws boyfriend to get stitches for a cut from the JMM/Manny 3 fight-8 or 9 weeks before. Bob then said Manny was no longer able to fight in May 2012.

How did the ringside physician, the dr at the hospital doing the post fight analysis, and Manny's personal physician not give him stitches? Are they all that unprofessional?

Moving to the shoulder-Bob claims this happened in 2008, he said this yesterday. How did Manny's personal physician miss this injury for 7 years?

Manny is a pro athlete backed by TR. His doctor's are not of poor quality nor are the exams he gets like the rest of us. This "significant tear" went unaddressed and missed for years.

Do you really think that is possible?