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  • Pigeons
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    #51
    Originally posted by Weebler I
    He's there, at #10

    1. Mayweather
    2. Gonzalez
    3. Pacquiao
    4. Klitschko
    5. Bradley
    6. Froch
    7. Rigondeaux
    8. Estrada
    9. Kovalev
    10. Golovkin

    http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
    What a fucking joke. Golovkin over Crawford. Wow, just wow!

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    • DeadLikeMe
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      #52
      Usually I agree with TBRB but yikes...is that updated?

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      • DoktorSleepless
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        #53
        Originally posted by New England
        do you have a link for that?

        i'm not seeing it made explicit anywhere on the website that the p4p list differs from the regular ratings. the "ratings chairman," "editorial board," and a panel of writers all have input, according to the website.
        http://rin gtv.craveonline.com/news/176459-dougies-friday-mailbag-97
        The pound-for-pound rankings as it is now is just Chuck Giampa's list.

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        • Build That Wall
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          #54
          Originally posted by Weebler I
          He's there, at #10

          1. Mayweather
          2. Gonzalez
          3. Pacquiao
          4. Klitschko
          5. Bradley
          6. Froch
          7. Rigondeaux
          8. Estrada
          9. Kovalev
          10. Golovkin

          http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/
          That is an atrocious list.

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          • sicko
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            #55
            Not too bad, 1000x better than boxrec P4P Rankings which the last time I checked had Canelo #3

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            • New England
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              #56
              Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
              http://rin gtv.craveonline.com/news/176459-dougies-friday-mailbag-97


              that's interesting, and thanks for providing the link.

              it's kind of an odd look for doug fisher to be airing stuff out like that in public. it sounds like there's some real conflict there.

              a chuck giampa dictatorship is a very flawed rating system. i'd be embarrassed for ring mag if that policy was in place during 2012, when the article was written, or now.

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                #57
                Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                http://rin gtv.craveonline.com/news/176459-dougies-friday-mailbag-97
                Originally posted by New England
                that's interesting, and thanks for providing the link.

                it's kind of an odd look for doug fisher to be airing stuff out like that in public. it sounds like there's some real conflict there.

                a chuck giampa dictatorship is a very flawed rating system. i'd be embarrassed for ring mag if that policy was in place during 2012, when the article was written, or now.
                That mailbag is from 2012 and there is nothing to indicate whether that is still how things are today or if they have changed. If it means that much to someone, why not write an email to Dougie and ask him about it.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Pigeons
                  What a fucking joke. Golovkin over Crawford. Wow, just wow!
                  Why should Crawford be over GGG?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
                    Why should Crawford be over GGG?
                    2014 Fighter of the Year. Has a marquee win over Gamboa. Just became a 2-weight champ.

                    Also Inoue belongs over Golovkin.

                    My list:
                    Mayweather
                    Pacquiao
                    Gonzalez
                    Rigondeaux
                    Klitschko
                    Kovalev
                    Bradley
                    Crawford
                    Inoue
                    Uchiyama

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Pigeons
                      2014 Fighter of the Year. Has a marquee win over Gamboa. Just became a 2-weight champ.

                      Also Inoue belongs over Golovkin.

                      My list:
                      Mayweather
                      Pacquiao
                      Gonzalez
                      Rigondeaux
                      Klitschko
                      Kovalev
                      Bradley
                      Crawford
                      Inoue
                      Uchiyama
                      Definitely didn't deserve fighter of the year last year imo. Inoue had a better year basically beating two number #1's in two different weight divisions (Narvaez and Hernandez were both #1 when Inoue beat them) and in more impressive fashion than Crawford did Gamboa and Burns.
                      Why is Gamboa such a marquee name? He was coming off a year of inactivity before that only fought once in 2012. It was only his second fight at 135 and was giving Crawford the business until the size disadvantage took affect.

                      GGG's best wins are comparable to Crawfords. GGG also has more wins agaisnt top 10 fighters than Crawford. He's also defeated them in more impressive fashion than Crawford has. Crawford struggled with Gamboa and Dulorme (Dulorme should have been up either 3-2 or 4-1 going into the 6th round). GGG barely loses a round and people criticize him like crazy.

                      This was roughly the ranking of their opposition at the time they fought them:
                      Murray (top 5 overall), Geale (top 10 overall), Rubio (top 10), Stevens (top 10), Macklin (top 10 has fallen off tremedously), Proska (ranked by some organizing bodies), Rosado (ranked highly at 154 by most sanctioning organizations before moving up), Monroe (#2 WBA), Ouma (former champion
                      )>>> Gamboa (i don't even know if gamboa was ranked at 135 at that time or where, but he didn't do much at that weight), Beltran (top 10 overall), Dulorme (ranked by organizing bodies), Burns (top 3 overall), Prescott (not top 10 at 140 when Bud fought him-but I respect this win for taking it on short notice)

                      Like I stated previously, Comparable resumes but GGG has beat his opposition in a more convincing fashion. GGG has also faced more ranked opponents. GGG has been champion much longer and has more titles defenses.

                      Of course all lists are subjective and i'm not trying to **** on you're list. But it's crazy how much people hate GGG, yet they say Crawford deserves to be a head of him for having done less.
                      I really like Crawford but people have to slow it down a little. I would have him somewhere at 11-15. Uchiyama is without a doubt Top 10!!! Yama almost gets no respect.

                      I really like your list for the most part though, except imo Pacquaio has not been top 2 p4p for a while. Also, while I'm a big Bradley fan, not sure he's done enough to stay there if he has he's probably like 9 or 10 (Uchiyama should be ranked a head imo). But everyone has their own opinion and you have to respect it.
                      Last edited by HI-TECH Boxing; 05-19-2015, 05:19 PM.

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