Who Makes The P4P List for Ring Magzine

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  • -PBP-
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    #41
    JMM and Froch should be off the list due to 1 year of inactivity

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    • Weebler I
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      #42
      Originally posted by PBP
      JMM and Froch should be off the list due to 1 year of inactivity
      Froch hasn't been inactive a year yet, but I think the Ring limit is 18 months.

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      • Ahmed_Ismail
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        #43
        My list:

        1- Floyd Mayweather
        2- Guillermo Rigondeaux
        3- Sergey Kovalev
        4- Manny Pacquiao
        5- Vasyl Lomachenko
        6- Roman Gonzalez
        7- Gennady Golovkin
        8- Terrence Crawford, Danny Garcia should be here officialy cuz ON PAPER he beat everybody, but imo he didn't so i'll give this one to Crawford
        9- Wladimir Clinchko
        10- Erislandy Lara, but officially Canelo should be here cuz he beat Lara on paper, but I thought Lara won so I give it to Lara.

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        • Humean
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          #44
          I personally think it is one of the best p4p lists that the Ring have created in a long time. I'd slightly favour Uchiyama or Inoue over Yamanaka to be in the top 10 but Yamanaka's place is certainly not unjustified and it is about time that the top Asian-based Asian fighters get a look in. Yamanaka, Uchiyama, Inoue, Ruenroeng and Nietes are all somewhere in the top 20 for me.

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          • HI-TECH Boxing
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            #45
            Originally posted by HEND
            Golovkin is above those guys from 5-9 based on which of his wins?

            Rigondeaux beat Donaire --> better win than any of Golovkin's
            Pacquiao beat Bradley --> better win than any of GGG's
            Crawford beat Gamboa --> better win than any of Golovkin's
            Kovalev beat Pascal and a 49 years old Hopkins --> better win than any of Golovkin's
            JMM --> I can give that because JMM is inactive so I don't have him on my list

            So it seems like they push above and above Golovkin by each of his fights where he feasts on second/third tier opponents. Sorry but the hype is just ludacrous. I couldn't care less the way he beata them, those are still second and third tier opponents not opponent who should catapult you to P4P lists with wins over them. I'm not hating, even if it seems like that I just don't like unreasoning **** and when guys take place on P4P #4 without any signature, big win.
            You rip GGG yet praise Crawford. What exactly has Crawford done to merit a top 10 position? His best win is Gamboa, who was coming off a year of inactivity (before that he only fought once in 2012) and it was only his second fight at 135 and was basically giving Terence the business for the first 4 rounds. He even lost most of the rounds against Thomas freaking Dulorme until the knockout. I like the kid but people are hyping him up like crazy and need to slow it down. Crawford is like 11-15, currently imo.

            Murray, Geale, Rubio, Stevens, Macklin, Proska, Rosado, Monroe, Ouma>>>Gamboa, Beltran, Dulorme, Burns, Prescott
            Whether you like his opposition or not, most of the guys GGG has faced were ranked either in the top 10 overall or top 10 by an organization at the time he faced them.
            GGG has more names than Crawford and imo has beaten all of his opposition in a more convincing manner.

            Uchiyama deserves the spot over Crawford and Yamanaka. Yamanaka over Crawford imo.
            Last edited by HI-TECH Boxing; 05-19-2015, 09:14 AM.

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            • bluebeam
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              #46
              mayweather
              klitschko
              gonzalez
              rigodeaux
              kovalev
              golovkin
              froch
              pacquaio
              crawford
              canelo


              no ward due too inactivity
              froch is next too go due too inactivity

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              • Barcham
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                #47
                Ward does not belong on ANY P4P list until he starts fighting top competition at a rate of at least 2 per year. His inactivity since 2011 is impossible to ignore and he basically has to start over. I would put Rigo on the list, but not above the 5 position because in my book, 15 fights is not enough to be a top 5 P4P fighter and amateur records do not count.

                Golovkin is fine at number 4. His activity makes up for the fact that most top fighters refuse to fight him. And if anyone has a problem with him being there, they are simply refusing to see the quality of the fighter due to whatever fog of hate is over their eyes.

                For the future, I could see Crawford rising fast if he keeps fighting and rising to the top if he keeps fighting and beating top contenders. I don't see GGG moving above number 3 unless his quality of opponent increases. I could see Gonzalez at number one, followed by Crawford and then Golovkin or Kovalev.

                The rest will be up for grabs because there will be a lot of changes due to retirements in the next few years... Floyd, Pacquaio, Froch and Wlad will all be gone soon enough.

                Will Ward be able to do enough to deserve a place on the list again? It all depends on what he does in the next two years. I think he needs fights against people like Kovalev, Stevenson and GGG to get him back up the list. Not necessarily wins, just good showings without getting KOd along the way.

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                • deanrw
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                  #48
                  You need to take all P4P lists with a grain of salt, even your own, because your own list is just your opinion, just like everyone elses.

                  On that note, I am surprised the Ring does not have Canelo in their top 10 list. Maybe it is because he does not have an official weight class anymore LOL

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                  • Pigeons
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Weebler I
                    Froch hasn't been inactive a year yet, but I think the Ring limit is 18 months.
                    JMM hit 1 year inactivity last Sunday and has been removed. Froch will be removed in 2 weeks.

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pigeons
                      The RING became a joke a long time ago. Golovkin does not belong in the P4P top 10. When TBRB's list comes out today, he won't be there.
                      He's there, at #10

                      1. Mayweather
                      2. Gonzalez
                      3. Pacquiao
                      4. Klitschko
                      5. Bradley
                      6. Froch
                      7. Rigondeaux
                      8. Estrada
                      9. Kovalev
                      10. Golovkin

                      http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/

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