The hypocrisy that involves the GGG-Ward-Kovalev triangle!

[Barcham]

There is no reason to move up yet... he nearly fought Chavez @168 less than a year ago.

What you fail to understand, Eater of Male Ass, is that fans who know what they are talking about and actually follow the sport, understand the difference between moving up for one fight and moving up permanently. It seems you do not. It is a shame that you have such difficulty with your reading comprehension. Have you considered taking a remedial reading course? You obviously need one.

[Beater_of_ass]

GGG and his camp have always made it clear that he would leave his division ONLY for a PPV fight. This has always been their stance and it has not changed. At the time, HBO were willing to make the Chavez Jr. a PPV fight and that has obviously changed since he moved to Haymon and was destroyed by Fonfara. That fight would have had absolutely no effect on GGG's goal to unify the division as it would have not been a permanent move to SMW.

And GGG will still fight Chavez because Chavez will owe him $1 million after the fight on top of his purse. That will make up for the lack of PPV.

Oh look, the GGG fluffer to the rescue. I just said he'd move up because of the money and you say "He'd move up for a PPV fight." That's money you dumb mother ****er. How do you know he wouldn't have stayed? Here we go again with the GGG good blow boys and making excuse after excuse to justify him picking on no hopers lol.

He'd move up for money etc... Guess what? Cotto and Canelo would fight GGG for money, he doesn't bring it in. Sorry, they'll fight him when he's worth it like GGG moving up when it's worth it. The fluff game is strong with this one. You're going to win the title this year again.

[i'm a fun haver]

I would be okay with this argument but GGG had no problems moving up for Chavez just a year ago. Now he can't, the reason is 100% obvious, it's the money bruh. That's it, I don't care that he wants the money but everyone does and he has to wait. The unification means **** when he was willing to move up just a year ago for a big paycheck.

TopRank sent K2 a contract for GGG to fight Chavez Jr.
GGG signed it and sent it back. Chavez Jr ran in the opposite direction.
Ward's people never sent **** except for a letter to HBO from Ward's lawyer lol
Do you see the difference?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What's not to understand about GGG? The guy is a NATURAL middleweight. There is no reason for him to change division until he starts having trouble making weight and there are no more opponents to fight. Cotto is a MW champ and Canelo fights at MW and weighs as much if not more than GGG does on fight night. There is no 'lower weights' involved there.

As for Ward, if he wants to remain at 168 then he has to fight all contenders and title holders. And that includes the Dirrells if they have a title. No more Paul Smiths. His next fight should be against Chudinov at the very least or he can fight Ramirez. He has to stay active in the division, fighting once every year and a half does not cut it.

I just said, I don't care when it happens. Just that it does happen. Ward-Golovkin is a fight that needs to happen eventually.

But I don't want any more Willie Jr's. If it becomes clear he isn't getting either Cotto or Canelo, then move up or fight someone good like Lara.

Golovkin is a middleweight.

At middleweight there are Canelo and Cotto, regardless of whether you think Cotto is too small or whatever, if he holds the lineal strap and campaigns there he should relinquish the belt or step into the lions den.

Ward is taller, longer and naturally heavier than GGG, not only that but other than 168 there aren't many meaningful fights at 168 which is an overrated division.

Ward is the B side. They should meet at 164.

The reason you keep pushing a catchweight just shows how much you're pissing your pants at the thought of the fight. Golovkin was willing to do 168 for Chavez and Froch but not Ward

Ward and Golovkin are a lot closer in size than Ward and Kovalev. This has already been proven

[bigjavi973]

You don't want Cotto to face GGG fact!

Like I said. Quote me or stfu you racist troll.

[Beater_of_ass]

TopRank sent K2 a contract for GGG to fight Chavez Jr.
GGG signed it and sent it back. Chavez Jr ran in the opposite direction.
Ward's people never sent **** except for a letter to HBO from Ward's lawyer lol
Do you see the difference?

No because my point had nothing to do with that you idiot. It's the fact that was willing to move up to face Chavez and didn't care about unifying. Once that fight fell through "Oh GGG doesn't want $$$, he wants to unify."

[bigjavi973]

GGG and his camp have always made it clear that he would leave his division ONLY for a PPV fight. This has always been their stance and it has not changed. At the time, HBO were willing to make the Chavez Jr. a PPV fight and that has obviously changed since he moved to Haymon and was destroyed by Fonfara. That fight would have had absolutely no effect on GGG's goal to unify the division as it would have not been a permanent move to SMW.

And GGG will still fight Chavez because Chavez will owe him $1 million after the fight on top of his purse. That will make up for the lack of PPV.

So he'll move up to fight chavez jr for no belt but not ward (who wasn't inactive at the time) for the lineal 168 lbs. title. Why?

[Beater_of_ass]

So he'll move up to fight chavez jr for no belt but not ward (who wasn't inactive at the time) for the lineal 168 lbs. title. Why?

He'll say it was for PPV fight, not money. Apparently they are different things lol.

[T18Z]

I just said, I don't care when it happens. Just that it does happen. Ward-Golovkin is a fight that needs to happen eventually.

But I don't want any more Willie Jr's. If it becomes clear he isn't getting either Cotto or Canelo, then move up or fight someone good like Lara.



The reason you keep pushing a catchweight just shows how much you're pissing your pants at the thought of the fight. Golovkin was willing to do 168 for Chavez and Froch but not Ward

Ward and Golovkin are a lot closer in size than Ward and Kovalev. This has already been proven

Ward is fighting at a 172 catchweight and his height and reach is closer to that of Kovalev than that of a middleweight, so no, Kovalev and Ward are closer in size, that's obvious with simple math.

[Barcham]

I just said, I don't care when it happens. Just that it does happen. Ward-Golovkin is a fight that needs to happen eventually.

But I don't want any more Willie Jr's. If it becomes clear he isn't getting either Cotto or Canelo, then move up or fight someone good like Lara.



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Lara has just been replied to by Tom Loeffler. If he moves to 160 and can fight on HBO, and the finances work out, he can have his fight.

Other than that would you rather GGG just sit on his ass and fight once every year like Cotto instead? No thanks. I'd rather see him fight whoever has the balls to get in the ring, and that instantly makes them more of a man than either Cotto or Canelo who get the shakes over the possibility.

Ward - Golovkin can wait until Ward has built his brand back up to the point where people want to see the fight. After the May-Pac mess, I don't think anyone really wants to see Ward spending 12 rounds clinching and grabbing and head butting right now.