Why do people demand Floyd fight the toughest opposition out there but not Pacquiao?

[SCEN3RY]

Firstly, stop acting like Floyd has fought some incredible row of fighters (and still 0 prime ATGs). Secondly, when you call yourself the best ever (or your fans do), you can't b1tch about demands...it just doesn't make sense. I've never seen a fan base so preoccupied with deflecting and meanwhile hollering "TBE." You guys sound ****ing crazy.

And I think time will tell, but I don't see greatness in Thurman, Khan, Brook, Maidana, I don't think they're incredibly tough fights for Pac or May. As long as either has something in the tank (although we are reaching the point where you start paying attention to that gauge, or your team does), a difference of level would be displayed in any of those fights. Some of them aren't readily available, but if a deal can be reached with Haymon, I think Maidana-Pac is really intriguing. And Khan-Floyd is as well.

[b00g13man]

firstly, stop acting like floyd has fought some incredible row of fighters (and still 0 prime atgs). Secondly, when you call yourself the best ever (or your fans do), you can't b1tch about demands...it just doesn't make sense. I've never seen a fan base so preoccupied with deflecting and meanwhile hollering "tbe." you guys sound ****ing crazy.

And i think time will tell, but i don't see greatness in thurman, khan, brook, maidana, i don't think they're incredibly tough fights for pac or may. As long as either has something in the tank (although we are reaching the point where you start paying attention to that gauge, or your team does), a difference of level would be displayed in any of those fights. Some of them aren't readily available, but if a deal can be reached with haymon, i think maidana-pac is really intriguing. And khan-floyd is as well.

tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe! Tbe!

[Bushbaby]

you don't have to guess, you just have to agree with this.

If Floyd is really that good or TBE as he say he is and as his fans say he is.

Then:

He does not need Vegas or MGM as a venue, any place anywhere will do

He does not need murican ref, any ref will do

He does not need murican judges, any judge will do

He does not nedd NSAC, any commission will do

He does not need USADA, any drug testing agency will do,

he does not need a guy who don't know red from blue, any guy will do.

if Floyd is that good as he and his fans says he is

He will beat all his opponent regardless of those mentioned above.

Why didn't you just post this instead of quoting me?? Has nothing to do with what I wrote.

[Boxsingh]

He beat all the champions at welterweight since 2010, Mosley was the WBA champion and Floyd was the challenger, Ortiz was the WBC champion and Floyd was the challenger, Cotto was the champ and Floyd was the challenger, Guerrero was a champ like Floyd at the time, Canelo was the champ and Floyd was the challenger, Maidana was the WBA champion and Pacquiao was the WBO champion, who else could he have fought in the last 5 years? if he would've fought Alexander instead of Guerrero people would be like oh he ducked Guerrero, and same applies for all other opponents.

Mosley KOs Margarito in 2009 Floyd fights Mosley and Pacquiao fights Margarito in 2010 and Pacquiao gets more credit even though he fought the loser, Margarito beats and cuts up Cotto Pacquiao fights shot Cotto and nobody says **** about fighting Margarito who actually won the fight and was also promoted by Arum, Mike Alvarado beats Brandon Rios, Pacquiao fights Rios instead of Alvarado, Joshua Clottey loses to Cotto, Pacquiao fights him fresh off the loss, and the list of CHERRY PICKED SHOT opponents goes on and on and ON, hell it goes back to 2005, Morales gets shut out by Zahir Raheem, Pacquiao fights Morales and nobody even mentions Zahir Raheem as a potential opponent and nobody in the media or none of the fans calls Pacquiao out on the BS, Floyd Mayweather would NEVER get away with fighting this crappy level of opposition!

Yup this post was ether, but you let yourself down here lad.

But in all fairness, I've never heard Pac claim to be TBE or compare himself to the greats. I guess Floyd brings extra scrutiny towards his career when he proclaims accolades like that.

[boxinghead530]

Exactly.

Pac is exciting, so he can make a fight out of going against defensive opponents.

Floyd fighting another defensive fighter will put everyone to sleep.

Very curious who Floyds final fight will be. I'd love for him to fight GGG, but thats unrealistic, and not that fair. If he fights one of the top Welters, like Thurman, or Khan, I'm more than fine with that.

D. Garcia is also with Haymon, but I don't see that fight happening. Stylistic mismatch really.

How is Floyd fighting GGG unrealistic and not fair? If you go by the he's with a different promoter thing so it can't happen, well that's not true. He made the fight with Pac and arum. If you go by saying he's just to big. Well Floyd is just to small analogy, well he is the jr middle weight champ. So just to middle weight is not that much of a stretch. Plus he and only his fans call him TBE. If he wants the rest of the boxing world to call him TBE. Fighting and beating a GGG will
help that cause. I'll admit he's the best of this era (which imo don't compare to past eras) but he is no way TBE OF ALL TIME.

[QballLobo]

Magic Johnson went to nine NBA Finals in his 12 or so years with the LA Lakers...Russell won 11 NBA Championships...so yeah, folks can compare LeBron to those guys because those guys brought their teams to NBA Finals or titles in their day.

The issue that many have with Floyd is that a lot of them haven't really seen him in a "challenging" fight. Maybe Hatton was one or Cotto was one, but there will always be those that say no about those fights. Mayweather is just as Triple H used to say "that...damn...good."

As far as Pacquiao is concerned, he didn't do much at all in that fight and he was not going to do much regardless...His punch output has diminished over the years and that would not be a good thing against Floyd who had all of the advantages to begin with. Pac was going to get beat and a lot of people knew it, but some just wanted to see Floyd lose.

Oh, and about the TBE thing....no different than when Ali said he was the greatest during his day...it's all about bringing in people to watch him fight...and it's working REALLY well, isn't it?

Except Ali didn't just say it, he went out and backed it up. Actively challenged the best of his day, called out Foreman when everyone said George would hurt him, possibly kill him.
Floyds career is so calculated even in a weaker era. And outside of his hardcore fans he is the only calling himself TBE. Good marketing tool...maybe. But the point is he is the one that put it out there, he and his fans can't get made when people expect him to back up his words.

[Calabis]

Pac has always fought the best comp no one had to force him into fights . Ppl really forget the early days barrera morales , marquez cmon guys pac run through weight classes is untouchable

U named 3 fighters

[ADP02]

There are posters on here who swore if Floyd beat Cotto, Mosley,hatton, canelo and pacquiao they would concede that Floyd is top 10.... You would be hard pressed to find anyone who's conceded anything.

The above doesn't get you to be considered anything except for being delusional or you don't know boxing.

For one, remember where the above names were at the time they fought Floyd.

[mathed]

Why does Floyd have to fight the toughest and biggest guy out there at the age of 38 and not Manny Pacquiao, Why isn't anybody mentioning Thurman or Khan or Brook or Maidana or Canelo as potential opponents for Pacquiao? why is it that if Floyd doesn't fight even 1 of them everybody is gonna be like Floyd ducked him?

I think Pacquiao's fans themselves gave up on Pacquiao becoming the best P4P fighter in the world again especially after he got outclassed on May 2nd, so they just wanna see him get his hands raised at the end of the fight regardless of who the opponent is.

What do you guys think?

TBE...........when you make that claim, you have to back it up...forever!

[fighter1234]

if Floyd fights are not in Vegas

and no murican judges

and not a murican ref

and no NSAC

and no USADA.

and no guy who don't even know red from blue

then Floyd will not be just as good.

to support my contention

see what happens in the olympics

Floyd fans - well that was a robbery

but that is what Floyd is doing since then

rob his opponents with every single advantage they have to win against him.

to support my contention

see maidana 1 pillow gloves.

Floyd fans - glove has nothing to do with it.

Floyd himself - people dying with horse hair gloves.

Floyd fans - you took Floyd statement out of context

LOL

Correlation does not imply causation. Just because most of Floyd's fights have been in Vegas doesn't mean that Vegas is causing him to win you idiot. All you need is a working pair of eyes to see that he won all his fights. I have a feeling you're a casual who only goes on boxrec and has never actually seen a a Floyd Mayweather fight from start to finish other than his most recent few.