Action fighters can fight whoever. Defensive fighters have to fight the best.
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Why do people demand Floyd fight the toughest opposition out there but not Pacquiao?
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Originally posted by revs1227 View PostPac has always fought the best comp no one had to force him into fights . Ppl really forget the early days barrera morales , marquez cmon guys pac run through weight classes is untouchable
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Originally posted by techliam View PostJust a couple of corrections. Guerrero wasnt a champion, and Canelo wasnt the champion either, Floyd was ranked above him (the lineage was created from the Canelo-Floyd fight)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D36ya7Uj16Q, this is before the Maidana fight, I think Floyd is absolutely right here but still Guerrero was a champ, plus it was a comeback fight for Floyd cuz he's been off for a year and he did jail time, so everybody wanted to know how he's doing mentally and Guerrero was on a winning streak and he coming off a loss to Berto, whereas Pacquiao's comeback fight was fighting the LOSER of the Brandon Rios vs Mike Alvarado, who are both C level fighters who never even got close to being champions at 147.Last edited by Ahmed_Ismail; 05-17-2015, 11:52 AM.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View PostBecause those are the standards Floyd himself has set for himself. He says he is the best ever, better than Ali etc..
He and his fans can't get mad when people want to see him prove it. The guys Floyd is talking about challenged themselves and took fights where they didn't have all the advantages.
Its like Lebron James. He has had an incredible career and is a great player. But he has also said when he is done he will move one of the ATG off the "Mt. Rushmore" of basketball. Now we have to compare him to Jordan, Magic, Russelll and the like. That's why people bring up the Finals losses etc..., not because they hate Lebron, but because those are the standards he has set for himself and people are holding him to.
The issue that many have with Floyd is that a lot of them haven't really seen him in a "challenging" fight. Maybe Hatton was one or Cotto was one, but there will always be those that say no about those fights. Mayweather is just as Triple H used to say "that...damn...good."
As far as Pacquiao is concerned, he didn't do much at all in that fight and he was not going to do much regardless...His punch output has diminished over the years and that would not be a good thing against Floyd who had all of the advantages to begin with. Pac was going to get beat and a lot of people knew it, but some just wanted to see Floyd lose.
Oh, and about the TBE thing....no different than when Ali said he was the greatest during his day...it's all about bringing in people to watch him fight...and it's working REALLY well, isn't it?
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Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail View PostHe beat all the champions at welterweight since 2010, Mosley was the WBA champion and Floyd was the challenger, Ortiz was the WBC champion and Floyd was the challenger, Cotto was the champ and Floyd was the challenger, Guerrero was a champ like Floyd at the time, Canelo was the champ and Floyd was the challenger, Maidana was the WBA champion and Pacquiao was the WBO champion, who else could he have fought in the last 5 years? if he would've fought Alexander instead of Guerrero people would be like oh he ducked Guerrero, and same applies for all other opponents.
Mosley KOs Margarito in 2009 Floyd fights Mosley and Pacquiao fights Margarito in 2010 and Pacquiao gets more credit even though he fought the loser, Margarito beats and cuts up Cotto Pacquiao fights shot Cotto and nobody says **** about fighting Margarito who actually won the fight and was also promoted by Arum, Mike Alvarado beats Brandon Rios, Pacquiao fights Rios instead of Alvarado, Joshua Clottey loses to Cotto, Pacquiao fights him fresh off the loss, and the list of CHERRY PICKED SHOT opponents goes on and on and ON, hell it goes back to 2005, Morales gets shut out by Zahir Raheem, Pacquiao fights Morales and nobody even mentions Zahir Raheem as a potential opponent and nobody in the media or none of the fans calls Pacquiao out on the BS, Floyd Mayweather would NEVER get away with fighting this crappy level of opposition!
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Because bias is a big part of being a fan. The same people think Cotto should fight GGG, but don't seem to think Canelo needs to fight GGG. They get low I.Q. techincal about it citing, "but Cotto has a belt doe" as if Cotto wearing the belt, comes anywhere near Canelo's weight on the scales.
It's all convenient fanboy bullshyt. "Yeah but, Cotto beat a cripple but doe somehow now I am going to pretend the win was legit doe so that I can spare Canelo from fighting at his real weight of 160lbs and sacrifice Cotto to
GGG to buy me another 6 months doe of pretending Canelo is a warrior who will fight anyone doe..." Can't make this shyt up.
In a fanboy world, Cotto "beat a cripple Sergio" and is not really a MW champ but he somehow is a MW champ, when we want to shield Canelo from fighting GGG.
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostAction fighters can fight whoever. Defensive fighters have to fight the best.
Pac is exciting, so he can make a fight out of going against defensive opponents.
Floyd fighting another defensive fighter will put everyone to sleep.
Very curious who Floyds final fight will be. I'd love for him to fight GGG, but thats unrealistic, and not that fair. If he fights one of the top Welters, like Thurman, or Khan, I'm more than fine with that.
D. Garcia is also with Haymon, but I don't see that fight happening. Stylistic mismatch really.
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