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  • #61
    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
    Thead starter is so smart and watches so much boxing he doesn't even realize the slickest fighter he listed is one of the Eastern Euros
    So? The point was that the slick style doesn't work on the fighters mentioned.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
      Why do you respond to me when the OP has it in his title and multiple times in his original post?

      Anyhow, this is as good a summation as I've seen:



      btw if you're going to give me rep, you should leave a comment because it comes up grey.
      I responded to you because the OP is a known troll and you are not. Ok if you define a "slick style" as generally someone with good defense, movement and elusiveness etc.. doesn't that sound like the exact ingredients to combat people like Golovkin and slow plodding Euro boxers? How else will you beat them? You control power with distance and movement. There are many examples in the history of boxing for you to see this. I just found your post irritating: "the slick style isn't going to do it against them." When in fact the "slick style" is precisely what it is designed for.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
        So? The point was that the slick style doesn't work on the fighters mentioned.
        Do you not get the irony in trying to discredit the "slick boxing style" by citing a guy who is himself an homage to it?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
          Do you not get the irony in trying to discredit the "slick boxing style" by citing a guy who is himself an homage to it?
          I don't think you really get what irony is.

          I'm not trying to discredit the style I'm just saying it does not and has not been working against the guys mentioned.

          Like the swarmer style doesn't really work the majority of the time against the slick style.

          I'm not trying to degrade anybody here!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by fighter1234 View Post
            I responded to you because the OP is a known troll and you are not. Ok if you define a "slick style" as generally someone with good defense, movement and elusiveness etc.. doesn't that sound like the exact ingredients to combat people like Golovkin and slow plodding Euro boxers? How else will you beat them? You control power with distance and movement. There are many examples in the history of boxing for you to see this. I just found your post irritating: "the slick style isn't going to do it against them." When in fact the "slick style" is precisely what it is designed for.
            I think Golovkin gets beaten by an inside fighter, Kovalev too (probably Ward & Beterbiev respectively).

            Granted an inside fighter can also be referred to as "slick" but that's not usually the style the term slick is applied to and I think the OP (troll or otherwise) was referring to a mover.

            Slick backfoot defensive movers aren't going to beat those two because their offensive footwork and ability to cut off the ring is too good.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
              I think Golovkin gets beaten by an inside fighter, Kovalev too (probably Ward & Beterbiev respectively).

              Granted an inside fighter can also be referred to as "slick" but that's not usually the style the term slick is applied to and I think the OP (troll or otherwise) was referring to a mover.

              Slick backfoot defensive movers aren't going to beat those two because their offensive footwork and ability to cut off the ring is too good.
              There are good/bad style matchups for everyone but it mainly depends on levels. I wouldn't worry about a Sugar Ray Leonard against Golovkin for example...
              And today the great "slick" out fighters are rare imo...
              OP took a 49 years old B-Hop and some second or third tier guys, named them "slick" and based on their losses to the best of Eastern-Euro fighters made the BS conclusion from it that slick fighters don't match up well against Easter-Euros.
              And given that Lomachenko's style is more like the slick style than the Kovalev/GGG one shows that this thread again isn't really about styles and style matchups but about lowkey race agendas. OP showed his true colours when he put Lomachenko in the same category as Kovalev or Golovkin and also put Gary Russell, Monroe and Hopkins into the same category. Completely different styles. All of them.
              OP do you even watch boxing?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                I think Golovkin gets beaten by an inside fighter, Kovalev too (probably Ward & Beterbiev respectively).

                Granted an inside fighter can also be referred to as "slick" but that's not usually the style the term slick is applied to and I think the OP (troll or otherwise) was referring to a mover.

                Slick backfoot defensive movers aren't going to beat those two because their offensive footwork and ability to cut off the ring is too good.
                I actually don't think Ward would fight a Golovkin or a Kovalev on the inside. Their power is too dangerous. I think he would fight them like he fought Abraham, fighting on the outside with the jab constantly in their face. You realize that "cutting off the ring" isn't the be all end all in a fight against Ward. Ward is very good at dealing with being cornered against the ropes. He can slip out to either side and he knows how to smother you. I'll admit Kovalev is a far more difficult fight for Ward than GGG is though, because he was good enough not to let Hopkins smother him.

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                • #68
                  Half the people on this site think every black fighter is slick.

                  Case in point: Willie Monroe & Timothy Bradley

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jas View Post
                    Completely Disagree

                    Kovalev and golovkin so focused on offence and don't move their heads

                    Way to beat them is throw quick combos then move out of there

                    With kovalev he doesn't fight inside, so smothering and clinching should be part of strategy

                    Sillakh did win that first round clearly albeit it's only a round and kova usually measures his guy first round

                    Golovkin is well versed in wrestling and is physicLy strong . Monroe tried to clinch when he was hurt but ggg wouldn't allow it.
                    Uh apparently you missed the first Monroe knock down where GGG slipped the jab and countered with the left hook that I still can't believe Monroe got up from. Was'nt the only time he did it either.

                    Also unless the boxer has power to go along with them combos, he has an uphill battle against someone who can cut off the ring, has good timing, and has monster power. You're basicly asking a boxer to win a war of attrition versus a bomber. There are no Roy Jones Jr. types running around 160 or 175.

                    Everything in boxing can be countered, but a boxer without at least respectable power is pretty much food for the likes of Kovalev and GGG.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Half the people on this site think every black fighter is slick.

                      Case in point: Willie Monroe & Timothy Bradley
                      True.

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