Superior Coach Post MayPac: Floyd Mayweather Sr or Freddie Roach?

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  • HURTFEELINGS
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    #11
    Originally posted by FeFist
    What technical advice did Roach give Pacquiao?
    MMMMMMMmanny duck, had manny looking for dinner.

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      #12
      I hope Floyd Sr gets the 2015 Trainer of the Year award. They have to stop giving it to Roach automatically even when he doesn't deserve it.

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #13
        Roger took Mayweather to the top not Sr.

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          #14
          Im pretty sure mayweather does his own thing in the ring, it doesnt even seem like he listens to his father in the corner.

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          • Xi_
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            #15
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            Roger took Mayweather to the top not Sr.
            Floyd won his first title with sr......roach is the most overrated coach in all sports. He teaches no defense at all.
            Last edited by Xi_; 05-16-2015, 10:04 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              Roger took Mayweather to the top not Sr.
              Floyd Sr groomed him for greatness from the time he was little up until he was 16.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Xi_
                Floyd won his first title with sr......roach is the most overrated coach in all sports. He teaches on defense at all.
                right, just think about this, in every sport yes, offense sells, but when faced with a team that plays defense in the big games, the defensive team almost always wins. In this case defense has sold the most, and won when he faced it. Floyd sr built floyd jr from his start til his first championship. and then came back. roach is all about offense but theres more to sports than just offense. Competition is about one thing...Winning and when roach's best fighter came up against some defense, he got schooled and lost.

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                • HarvardBlue
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                  #18
                  Mayweather pretty much does his own thing and Pacquiao doesn't listen to Roach so neither one of them should get credit for being great coaches. Roach is doing well with Cotto but the jury is still out.

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                    #19
                    Roach by FAR
                    Apart from Floyd what the hell has Floyd Snr done?
                    Can Floyd train current fighters to become better like Roach?

                    Look what Floyd Snr with Ricky Hatton, he couldnt even turn up to their training sessions on time.
                    Theres a reason why Roach is most sought out trainer in the world and why nobody wants to train with Floyd Snr

                    Floyd Mayweather Jr was a talented athlete to begin with along with an unbreakable determination, you cant teach the shoulder roll to your average kid and create the P4P best boxer.

                    You dont become the best trainer training 1 fighter, you become the best trainer when you can improve multiple fighters and maximise their potential.
                    Floyd only teaches one way and its his way and style, Roach can work and improve on your style. Thats the difference.

                    If Floyd Snr got Pacquiao instead of Roach would Pacquiao been as succesful as he is today? Hell no.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
                      Roach by FAR
                      Apart from Floyd what the hell has Floyd Snr done?
                      Can Floyd train current fighters to become better like Roach?

                      Look what Floyd Snr with Ricky Hatton, he couldnt even turn up to their training sessions on time.
                      Theres a reason why Roach is most sought out trainer in the world and why nobody wants to train with Floyd Snr

                      Floyd Mayweather Jr was a talented athlete to begin with along with an unbreakable determination, you cant teach the shoulder roll to your average kid and create the P4P best boxer.

                      You dont become the best trainer training 1 fighter, you become the best trainer when you can improve multiple fighters and maximise their potential.
                      Floyd only teaches one way and its his way and style, Roach can work and improve on your style. Thats the difference.

                      If Floyd Snr got Pacquiao instead of Roach would Pacquiao been as succesful as he is today? Hell no.
                      And floyd sr pupil schooled roach's best pupil to date.

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