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  • #91
    Originally posted by Real Talk85 View Post
    I'm Dumb? I asked because I didn't know you fool. Otherwise gasp, I wouldn't have asked.

    Also my second statement stands, if that was a condition for them to air a fight with Geale, all he needs to do is not fight Geale. The obligation was not to have two fights on HBO, the obligation from what you said was that he wanted to fight Geale, who is more than likely the one that HAS to fight on HBO, and HBO said to do this you have to fight Canelo next. So all Cotto has to do is say he doesn't want to fight either of HBO's guys and fight Floyd leaving everyone extremely salty.
    It's possible, but I'm sure hbo has some fine print in that contract that would deter him from doing that.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
      Cotto isn't fighting Fraud next for 2 reasons

      Cotto signed an agreement stating HBO was only willing to put on the Cotto-Geale fight if he fought a major fight (Canelo) in the fall. Cotto and Roc Nation would likely get their asses sued bad if they jumped ship to Showtime and fought Fraud.

      Haymon and Jay Z don't like each other


      Fl0moes can just give it up already
      HBO came out and said those were the conditions, yet we don't know. To say that was the final agreement is speculation on our behalf. Unless you know somebody, who know's somebody.

      In the article below. Cotto's adviser states that Al Haymon remains open for Cotto to face his fighters. NOTE: This being after Cotto signed with Jay-Z.

      http://www.boxingscene.com/cottos-ad...etition--88303

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      • #93
        That's Khan almost out of the picture then. Very tight timings.

        Ain't watching Cotto or D.Garcia or Thurman getting picked apart
        Last edited by miniq; 05-13-2015, 12:06 PM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          Floyd has broken the PPV record twice while on Showtime, is averaging about 900K buys otherwise and they think Showtime is losing money or really scared for this last fight. Please. Les Moonves is crip walking to the bank.
          Slurp, slurp....

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          • #95
            Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
            It's possible, but I'm sure hbo has some fine print in that contract that would deter him from doing that.
            Really? Cotto is not their fighter, he wants to fight their fighter and their condition was that he have to fight their other fighter as well. If he no longer wants to fight Geale then the condition of fighting Canelo is mute, they don't have any money invested in Cotto to any degree so they lose nothing, there would be nothing to recoupe. He really has no obligation to them unless he fights Geale.

            The way I see it they need Cotto waaaaay more than he needs them. He brings the money. Cotto can sell a rematch with Floyd at 160 and make mad money. It would do at least around 1.5 mil and you know he aint doing those numbers with Canelo, his last PPV bombed.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by subzer0ed View Post
              oooh, floyd's "fighting" again in september, in another $100 ppv snooze fest? If i want to catch some zzzs, i don't need to drop $100. pass.
              good for u, i sude do hope it isnt 100 bucks again

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Real Talk85 View Post
                Really? Cotto is not their fighter, he wants to fight their fighter and their condition was that he have to fight their other fighter as well. If he no longer wants to fight Geale then the condition of fighting Canelo is mute, they don't have any money invested in Cotto to any degree so they lose nothing, there would be nothing to recoupe. He really has no obligation to them unless he fights Geale.

                The way I see it they need Cotto waaaaay more than he needs them. He brings the money. Cotto can sell a rematch with Floyd at 160 and make mad money. It would do at least around 1.5 mil and you know he aint doing those numbers with Canelo, his last PPV bombed.
                He's not their fighter but he made a commitment to them. The obvious decision for cotto is to pull out and fight mayweather. Hbo is well aware of that and I'm sure has safeguards in place to stop that from happening. If they don't they're idiots.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
                  Goddamn you're dumb. Just stfu already.

                  Let me put it into words you can understand

                  Cotto already signed a contract with HBO. In that contract the terms were that if he fought Geale, HBO would televise it under the condition that Cotto would fight a major fight for them in the fall. That major fight is Canelo.

                  So yes he's pretty much on a two fight contract with them.

                  If he chose to break that contract he would be taken to the cleaners by HBO and their lawyers.
                  You're the dumb one. The contract you are referring to doesn't exist.

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                  • #99
                    Floyd's accomplished everything in boxing I've wanted him to. I don't care who he fights next. His legacy is set and I view everything from here on out as just a past prime fighter putting on exhibitions to get paid.

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                    • Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                      He's not their fighter but he made a commitment to them. The obvious decision for cotto is to pull out and fight mayweather. Hbo is well aware of that and I'm sure has safeguards in place to stop that from happening. If they don't they're idiots.
                      That's my question though, what could they possibly do? What could they sue him for? It sounds like they didn't even want him to fight Geale in the first place. If he were to pull out of the fight it would be Geale and his staff that would be owed compensation, not HBO. Cotto is obligated to Geale since he is invested monetarily in the fight. HBO doesn't have to air it, it can go un-televised all the same, I don't see how they have any recourse if Cotto pulls out.

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